Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the challenges of obtaining CE Mark certification for a battery-powered wireless product housed in a plastic IP68 enclosure. Participants explore the requirements for surge testing, particularly in the context of outdoor use, and the implications of having no exposed metal or conductive paths to earth ground.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
- Experimental/applied
Main Points Raised
- One participant describes their product's configuration and expresses concerns about surge testing, noting the absence of surge protection on signals, inputs, or outputs.
- Another participant suggests consulting the lab regarding the applicability of surge tests, mentioning the "IO Line Coupler" test for devices with exposed metal.
- It is noted that if there is no exposed metal, there may be no effective way to conduct the surge test, likening it to testing a plastic walkie-talkie.
- One participant mentions the necessity of the EN 61000-4-4 EFT/Burst test and the EN 61000-4-3 RF Immunity test, which do not require exposed metal.
- A participant shares their plan to add ESD diodes and ferrites to the I/O lines and to connect the cable shield at both ends for testing, despite uncertainties about the lab's requirements.
- Another participant questions the lab's request for access to the shield and suggests seeking a second opinion, arguing that CE Mark testing should reflect normal usage conditions.
- Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of a floating shield and the need for protection against ESD hits through potential creepage paths in the product.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the necessity and appropriateness of the lab's testing requirements, with some advocating for additional protective measures while others challenge the lab's approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best course of action for ensuring compliance with CE Mark requirements.
Contextual Notes
Participants highlight limitations related to the absence of conductive paths and the implications for surge testing. There are also unresolved questions about the adequacy of existing protective measures and the interpretation of CE Mark testing protocols.