Cell phones causing cancer goes national

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The discussion revolves around the proposal for cell phones to carry warnings about potential links to brain cancer, sparked by a Maine legislator's initiative. Participants explore the scientific consensus on the health risks associated with cell phone use, the implications of such warnings, and comparisons to other devices like microwave ovens.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference scientific studies suggesting no increased risk of brain tumors from cell phone use, while acknowledging that not all studies agree.
  • Others argue that the proposed warnings may lead to unnecessary fear or legal implications for manufacturers, despite the lack of evidence linking cell phones to cancer.
  • A participant questions the rationale behind the warnings, suggesting they may be more about legal protection than actual health risks.
  • There is a discussion about the differences in radiation exposure from cell phones compared to microwave ovens, with some participants asserting that cell phone radiation is less harmful.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for public desensitization to warnings if they become too common or are perceived as unfounded.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the motivations behind the legislation, suggesting it may be influenced by personal biases rather than scientific evidence.
  • There are inquiries about the safety of Bluetooth devices and their relation to the proposed warnings, with some asserting that they should carry similar warnings if cell phones do.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the health risks associated with cell phones. There are competing views on the validity of scientific studies, the appropriateness of warnings, and the implications for public health and policy.

Contextual Notes

Limitations in the discussion include the reliance on varying interpretations of scientific studies, the potential for biases in personal anecdotes, and the implications of legal and regulatory frameworks on public perception of health risks.

  • #31
Pattonias said:
If some reputable group was ever to "discover" that cell phones were causing brain cancer, wouldn't we end up with a rash of second hand brain damage law suites?
People generate about 100-150W and 2/3 of this is emitted as blackbody radiation.
Roughly 3% of this is the 10cm - 30cm microwave band.

So the person next to you on the bus is emitting about the same average power as your cell phone's maximum power.

The more bare skin they have on view and the more energy they are using the more mm wave power.
So be especially careful of people running around on the beach.
People covered by low emissivity clothing at room temperature are less of a risk - so anyone not wearing a tinfoil hat should carry a warning label.
 
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  • #32
mgb_phys said:
People generate about 100-150W and 2/3 of this is emitted as blackbody radiation.

I wonder if it is in any way related to the problem of difference between hot girl and cute girl.
 
  • #33
Well you would be safer with a cute one wrapped in a fur coat somewhere cool than a tanned one running around on a beach nearly naked getting hot

... goes for a little lie down to recover ...
 
  • #34
I knew this would happen...

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Long suspected of causing brain tumors, mobile phones are now being eyed as key allies in the fight against Alzheimer's disease, US researchers said Wednesday in a study.

Researchers at the University of South Florida (USF) found, to their surprise, that 96 mice they zapped twice daily for an hour each time with electromagnetic waves similar to those generated by US mobile (cellular) phones benefited from the exposure.

Long-term exposure to the electromagnetic waves in mobile phones wiped out deposits of beta-amyloid -- a protein fragment that accumulates in the brain of Alzheimer's sufferers to form the disease's signature plaques -- in older mice and improved their memories, the study published in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease showed.

For the full story... http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/100106/health/health_us_alzheimers_telecom

Mind you... if they are powerful enough to do this... they are powerful enough to wipe out beneficial attributes like cell membranes or organelles... perhaps...
 
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