Center of Gravity/Torque problem

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The problem involves a uniform plank supported by three ropes, with a person applying a force at a specific distance from one end. The context includes concepts of torque and equilibrium in physics.

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  • Participants discuss the equilibrium conditions, including the sum of forces and torques. There are attempts to identify the tension in the ropes and considerations of pivot points for simplifying calculations.

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Some participants have made progress in calculating tensions, while others express uncertainty about their approaches. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of equilibrium conditions and the importance of considering both forces and torques.

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Homework Statement


A uniform plank of length 2.00m and mass 30.0 kg is supported by three ropes. Find the tension in each rope when a 700N person is 5m from the left end.

Here's the diagram of the problem:
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3752/torquere9.png

Homework Equations


[tex]\tau[/tex] = rfsin[tex]\vartheta[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not really sure where to start or what to do except I'm pretty sure that
[tex]\sum[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex] = 0

thanks for helping out :)
 
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Start by splitting the Tension at 40 degrees into vertical and horizontal components. Then consider what the forces mean if the object is in equilibrium
 
[tex]\sum[/tex]F = 0 if it is in equilibrium. I'm still lost :(. I don't know how to find the forces except the two I already have.
 
Initially, set your pivot somewhere so that you only have one variable to worry about.
 
Thanks :) I was thinking the pivot was in the middle for some reason =\ . Well I got T1 (501N) I know that's correct because I checked in the back. Now I just need the other two.
 
The beam has to be in rotational equilibrium as well as in static equilibrium, so the sum of the forces has to equal zero.
 
I got T2, 672N, but now I'm not quite sure how to get T3. To find T2 I did:

[tex]\sum[/tex]T = (1.5)(700) + (30 * 9.8) - 2T[tex]_{2}[/tex] = 0

I also did that (but a little different) to find T1. The angle for T3 is 180 so to me it seems like there would be no force, but the book says it is 384N

Edit: I just read the last post, I think I'll be able to find T3 in a minute. :)

Edit: Yep, I got it.

[tex]\sum[/tex]F = 0 = 501cos40 - T2

Thanks for the tips, and thanks for not solving it all for me it really helped me out :)
 
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If T3 was 0, then the horizontal component of the force of T1 would force the beam to the right and the system would not be in static equilibrium.

You solve rotational equilibrium aspects of the system using torques, and you solve static equilibrium aspects of the system using forces.
 
Snazzy, do you have AIM by any chance? I have another problem that I'm too stupid to figure out and it would be awesome if you could help. I was gone from school for a week but I have to turn this all in on Monday and I just have a couple questions. :)
 
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I don't have AIM but you can just post here or PM me.
 

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