Center of Mas of a planar Lamina

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The discussion revolves around finding the center of mass of a triangular planar lamina with specified vertices and constant density. The original poster presents equations related to mass and moments, seeking clarification on the correct application of these concepts.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of double integrals to calculate mass and moments, with some questioning the correct formulas for Mx and My. There is also a side discussion about using LaTeX for mathematical notation.

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Several participants have provided insights into the formulas for calculating the center of mass, with one participant expressing confusion about the notation and another confirming the correct approach. The conversation is ongoing, with participants clarifying concepts and addressing misunderstandings.

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There is mention of a side question regarding the use of symbolic language on the forum, indicating a potential barrier for some participants in expressing mathematical ideas clearly.

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Homework Statement



Find the center of mass of a planar lamina, in the form of a triangle with vertices (0,0),(0,a),(a,a),
if ρ=k


Homework Equations



m = ∫∫f dA

xbar = My/m

ybar = Mx/m


The Attempt at a Solution



mass = ka²/2

Mx = ∫∫yk dy dx

My = ∫∫xk dy dx


**Side Question, how do we use math type or some other type of symbolic language on physics forums? ***

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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You can use LaTeX to type maths.
i.e. $$M_x = \iint ky\;dy\;dx$$

Did you have a question?
 
If the density is a constant, the "center of mass" is the "centroid", the geometric center of the figure. And for a triangle that is particularly simple to find. If you really want to use the double integral, x goes from 0 to a and, for each x, y goes from 0 to x:

m= \int_0^a\int_0^x k dydx
M_x= \int_0^a\int_0^x kx dydx
M_y= \int_0^a\int_0^x ky dydx
 
Aw sweet, turns out I had the wrong variable in my Mx & My formulas, kept getting the thing wrong:)And for symbols, my screen just shows "quick symbols", none of the fancy LaTex y'all are using ^^
 
Okay actually I do have a question, in my book the formula for Mx is double integral of ky dA

And for My is double integral kx dA Which is correct?
 
What do you mean "which" is correct? M_x is the moment of inertia about the x-axis and is \int\int ky dA. The y coordinate of the center of mass is \overline{y}= M_x/m= \int\int ky dA/m and the x coordinate of the center of mass is \overline{x}= M_y/m= \int\int kx dA/m.

Personally, I find the "M_x", "M_y" notation "non-intuitive" and prefer the \overline{x}= \int\int kx dA, \overline{y}= \int\int ky dA notation.
 
oh! Yes :D Excellent, thank you for clearing that up.
 

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