CENTER OF MASS of a circular conical surface

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The discussion focuses on calculating the center of mass (CM) of a circular conical surface with height H. The derived formula for the z-coordinate of the center of mass is z(CM) = H^2/3L, where L is the slant height and R is the radius of the base. However, the participants highlight that the result should depend solely on height H, challenging the initial findings. The conversation emphasizes the relationship between the dimensions of the cone and their impact on the center of mass.

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Homework Statement


Find the center of mass of a circular conical surface (empty cone) of height H.

Homework Equations


z(CM) = 1/M * int(z*dm)
x(CM)=y(CM)=0 (we've taken the origin of coordinates at the center of the base)

The Attempt at a Solution


This problem far exceeds my mathematical knowledge so I'll probably be talking nonsense but... here it goes:
let L be the slant height of the cone, R the radius of the circular base
dm= (M/pi*R*L)*dS
dS= 2pi*r*dz (where r is the "radius of each dS", r= R(H-z)/H)
We can now solve the integral, obtaining:
z(CM)= H^2/3L
But, given the problem wording, z(CM) should depend only upon H...!

Thank you for your help (and excuse my lousy English)!
 
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Unless I've misunderstood your question, the result can definitely not depend on H alone.
Consider two cones of height H, one with a base of radius R1 and another with a base of radius R2.
Now take R1>>R2. It seems clear to me that cone #1 will have its center of mass well below that of cone #2.--------
Assaf
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