Centre of mass of a solid hemisphere.

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The discussion revolves around determining the center of mass (CoM) of a uniform solid hemisphere with a specified radius. The original poster seeks to demonstrate that the CoM lies at a distance of (3/8)r from the center of the flat face, utilizing integration techniques involving the volume of thin discs.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of integration to find the CoM, with suggestions to modify variables for clarity. There is a focus on approximating the volume of thin discs and the implications of using different integration variables.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and clarifications regarding the setup of the integral. There is a recognition of the need to accurately define the volume of the discs and the radius at different positions, indicating a productive exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of using appropriate variables and the distinction between the area and volume of the discs, which may influence the integration process. There is an emphasis on the assumptions made regarding the thickness of the discs.

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Hi there, I can't get my head round how to do the math for this problem. I'm sure it's not as hard as I think...

Homework Statement


Show that the CoM of a uniform solid hemisphere of radius r lies at a distance (3/8)r from the centre of the flat face.
You may find it convenient to regard the hemisphere as consisting of a very large number of extremely thin discs of varying radii stacked on top of each other.

Homework Equations


I'm thinking I'll need the equation for CoM, involving an integral: R=(1/M)\intrdm. This I think can be modified to: R=(1/M)\intr\rhodV, where rho is the density at radius r.

The Attempt at a Solution


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Thanks very much for any help!
~Graham :wink:
 
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grahammtb said:
I'm thinking I'll need the equation for CoM, involving an integral: R=(1/M)\intrdm. This I think can be modified to: R=(1/M)\intr\rhodV, where rho is the density at radius r.
So far, so good. To avoid confusion, I recommend you use a different variable of integration than r--let's say y. (Imagine the hemisphere axis to be along the y-axis from y = 0 to y = r.) What's the volume of a thin disk located at position y?
 
Doc Al said:
So far, so good. To avoid confusion, I recommend you use a different variable of integration than r--let's say y. (Imagine the hemisphere axis to be along the y-axis from y = 0 to y = r.) What's the volume of a thin disk located at position y?

Ok, since the discs are extremely thin, I'd approximate the volume of the disc to be its area. So: A(y) = Pi.(r(y))2.
 
Hi Graham! :smile:
grahammtb said:
… You may find it convenient to regard the hemisphere as consisting of a very large number of extremely thin discs of varying radii stacked on top of each other.

… dV …

You're ignoring the hint …

if you use discs stacked on top of each other (with height z, say), you can go straight to integrating over dz, instead of dV. :wink:
 
grahammtb said:
Ok, since the discs are extremely thin, I'd approximate the volume of the disc to be its area. So: A(y) = Pi.(r(y))2.
The disks are thin, but not zero thickness! :bugeye: Hint: dV = Area dy.
 
Doc Al said:
The disks are thin, but not zero thickness! :bugeye: Hint: dV = Area dy.
Ah I think I see...so if dV = Ady, then I can put that into my original eqn. for CoM? R = (1/M)\int\rhoydV. Then R = (Pi.\rho/M)\inty3dy...I think :redface:
 
grahammtb said:
Ah I think I see...so if dV = Ady, then I can put that into my original eqn. for CoM? R = (1/M)\int\rhoydV. Then R = (Pi.\rho/M)\inty3dy...I think :redface:
You're on the right track, but not quite there yet. What's the radius of a disk at position y? (Draw yourself a diagram.)
 
yep! It worked! Thanks a lot guys, I'd have spent all afternoon trying to pick my way through :)
 

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