Centripetal and Centrifugal force

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The discussion clarifies that Centrifugal Force is a fictitious force, often confused with inertia. It emphasizes that according to Newton's 3rd law of motion, forces exist in pairs, specifically highlighting the relationship between centripetal force and its reactive counterpart. The centripetal force acts on an object moving in a circular path, while the force exerted back on the source of that centripetal force is termed the "reactive centrifugal force." This distinction is crucial for understanding the dynamics of rotating systems.

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  • Basic knowledge of forces in physics
  • Familiarity with inertial and fictitious forces
  • Concept of centripetal force in circular motion
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I just read that Centrifugal Force is a false force. It does not exist. Inertia (which is not a force) is mistakenly called Centrifugal force. Now, here is my question

According to Newton's 3rd law of motion, forces always exist in pairs; action and reaction. Centripetal force which is the force acting on the body pushing it towards the center must have a pair that is the force acting on the object that is exerting the centripetal force. For example: a yo-yo twirled around a finger is pulled along the string by the finger towards the finger - centripetal force. The force with which the yo-yo pulls on the finger along the string What is that force called then? This has nothing to do with the inertia of the yo-yo which will make it fly along a straight line as soon as the centripetal force is moved.
 
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kghosh said:
I just read that Centrifugal Force is a false force. It does not exist.
It is an inertial force, not an interaction force. In a rotating frame it "exists" in the same sense as interaction forces do:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force_(rotating_reference_frame)
kghosh said:
Inertia (which is not a force) is mistakenly called Centrifugal force.
It is not a "mistake" but a practical mathematical concept:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictitious_force

kghosh said:
According to Newton's 3rd law of motion, forces always exist in pairs; action and reaction.
Note that this law applies only to interaction forces, not inertial forces. But you are correct that the interaction centripetal force must have a equal but opposite force, according to Newtons 3rd.

kghosh said:
Centripetal force which is the force acting on the body pushing it towards the center must have a pair that is the force acting on the object that is exerting the centripetal force. For example: a yo-yo twirled around a finger is pulled along the string by the finger towards the finger - centripetal force. The force with which the yo-yo pulls on the finger along the string What is that force called then?
Some call it "reactive centrifugal force":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_centrifugal_force

Note that contrary to the "inertial centrifugal force" in a rotating ref. frame this "reactive centrifugal force" is an interaction force that exists in all ref. frames. See the table in this section for a comparison of the two:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_centrifugal_force#Relation_to_inertial_centrifugal_force

Here another example to explain all three forces, a rotating space station with two astronauts:

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hi kghosh! :smile:
kghosh said:
I just read that Centrifugal Force is a false force. It does not exist. Inertia (which is not a force) is mistakenly called Centrifugal force.

there is no centrifugal force for an inertial observer

there is centrifugal force for an observer in a rotating frame

centrifugal force is a fictititious (or inertial) force … some observers create it for their convenience :wink:
a yo-yo twirled around a finger is pulled along the string by the finger towards the finger - centripetal force. The force with which the yo-yo pulls on the finger along the string What is that force called then?

just a reaction force
 

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