Ceramic Properties vs. Solid Properties

  1. Hello,

    Quick run-down: I am attempting to model thin film materials (e.g. Ti-Al-N) for thermal analysis. I am

    confused on how to figure out the number density of Nitrogen for a ceramic. All

    the tables I have in school textbooks are for gas (~0.0013 g/cm3). I can find

    density of nitrogen/oxygen in a solid state, but is this the correct density?

    Question: Is the density of the solid state the correct density to use for modelling ceramics? I realize

    the structural differences, but not certain if the density can be estimated to be

    the same.

    Any assistance will be much appreciated!
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  3. Baluncore

    Baluncore 2,438
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    If you know the structure, maybe you can calculate the density from the ionic radii.
    Calculate also for another similar material with a known density to check the method.
    See the table here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionic_radius
  4. It's pretty easy if you know the structure. If you don't then some sort of mass spec is your only hope on a real sample.

    You basically need to find a repeating unit of structure then calculate the weight / volume of that repeating unit. On planar surfaces sometimes planar density is calculated as weight / area instead like graphene as it's thickness is pretty much non-existent.

    If you have the chemical formula (which may not be consistent for a thin film if it is doped) you assume you have a repeating unit of the chemical formula calculate the percent mass of Nitrogen and multiply that by total mass/total volume. Similar to above, but easier.

    Otherwise you do a mass spec of the results figure % mass nitrogen and divide by volume.
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