Change in Entropy of Ice Cube-Lake System

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The problem involves calculating the change in entropy of an ice cube placed in a lake, focusing on the thermal equilibrium process between the ice cube at -10°C and the lake at 15°C. The specific heat of ice and the latent heat of fusion for water are provided as part of the context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the change in entropy by considering the heat transfer through different phases: heating the ice from -10°C to 0°C, melting the ice, and then heating the resulting water to 15°C. Some participants question the approach and suggest breaking down the process into distinct stages for clarity.

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Participants are exploring different aspects of the problem, including the calculation of entropy changes for both the ice and the lake. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to integrate the heat transfer over the temperature ranges involved, and there is acknowledgment of the need to consider the heat flow from the lake to the ice.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct setup for the problem, with some participants noting previous posts and clarifying that this is a different question. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the initial steps and the overall approach.

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A 10g ice cube at -10C is placed in a lake whose temp is 15C, calculate the change in entropy of the cube-lake system as the ice comes to thermal equilibrium with the lake.
specific heat of ice is 2220 J/KgK

Homework Equations


Q(released)=Q(absorbed)
U=Q-W
S=Q/T
L(f)water=333kJ/kg


The Attempt at a Solution


Not really sure how to start??
Do you need to calculate change in the ice from -10C to 0c, then from 0C ice to 0C water, 0C water to 15C?
1. Q(ice)=c(ice)M(ice)(Tf-Ti)
Q=(2220 J/kgK)(0.01kg)(273K-263K)=222J

2.Q(ice to water)=Lm=333kJ/kg(.01kg)=3.33kJ=3330J ?

3.Q(water)=c(w)m(w)(Tf-Ti)
Q=(4190J/kgK)(.01kg)(288K-273K)=628.5J

Q=222+3330+628.5=4180.5J

I don't know what to do now or even know if I'm on the right path
 
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this is a different question
 
hils0005 said:
this is a different question
Yes, you are right. Sorry. You had double posted the earlier one though.

To calculate the change in entropy you have to work out the change in entropy of the ice cube water and the change in entropy of the lake, and add the two.

The change in entropy of the ice cube/water is the integral:

\Delta S = S_b - S_a = \int_a^b dQ/T = cm \int_a^b dt/T = cm\ln\frac{T_b}{T_a}

Divide the process into three separate stages: -10 to 0; melting (at 0C); 0 to 10 C because c is different for each of those stages.

To find the change in entropy of the lake (is it positive or negative?) find the total heat flow (from the lake to the ice cube/water) and divide by the lake temperature.

Add the two and that is your answer.

AM
 

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