Change of independent variables

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The discussion focuses on transforming the differential equation involving the variable x into one involving the variable θ. The key substitution involves using the relationship dx = -sin(θ) dθ, which leads to the need for the inverse chain rule to relate dy/dx and dy/dθ. Participants clarify the correct coefficients in the transformed equation, specifically addressing the presence of cot(θ) and confirming that it should not have an additional factor. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately applying the chain rule in the context of variable substitution. Overall, the transformation process is explored with attention to detail in the mathematical relationships.
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[SOLVED] Change of independent variables

Homework Statement


x = cos\theta
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(1-x^2)\frac{d^2y}{dx^2} - 2x\frac{dy}{dx} + 2y = 0
becomes
\frac{d^2y}{d\theta ^2}+ cot(\theta) \frac{dy}{d\theta} + 2y = 0

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The Attempt at a Solution



dx = -sin(\theta) d\theta
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As a total stab in the dark I've tried substituting -sin(\theta) d\theta in for dx, but that didn't seem to work... and I don't think that is mathematically correct to begin with. How do I get the relationship between dy/dx and dy/dtheta? if y were given I think it would be a lot easier
 
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Use this (let me call it "inverse chain rule")

\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{dy}{d\theta} \frac{d\theta}{dx}
where you can explicitly calculate the latter factor from the equation you wrote under (3).

Once you have that, you can do the same trick again:
\frac{d^2y}{dx^2} = \frac{d}{dx} \frac{dy}{dx} = \left( \frac{d}{d\theta} \frac{dy}{dx} \right) \frac{d\theta}{dx}
 
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Did you leave out a factor of 2 for the coefficient of cot (theta) in the answer?

Should it be \frac{d^2y}{d\theta ^2}+ 2cot(\theta) \frac{dy}{d\theta} + 2y = 0 ?
 
Hey guys thanks for your replies, I'm trying it out right now.
Defennder: Nope, it's just cot
 
Got it, thanks
 
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