Change of independent variables

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The discussion revolves around the change of independent variables in a differential equation, specifically transforming the variable from \(x\) to \(\theta\) where \(x = \cos\theta\). The original equation involves second derivatives with respect to \(x\) and is being converted to a form that involves derivatives with respect to \(\theta\).

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to substitute \(dx = -\sin(\theta) d\theta\) but expresses uncertainty about its correctness and seeks clarification on how to relate \(\frac{dy}{dx}\) and \(\frac{dy}{d\theta}\). Some participants suggest using the inverse chain rule to establish this relationship and propose further differentiation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions and clarifications. There is a question raised about a potential missing factor in the transformed equation, indicating ongoing exploration of the mathematical details. The original poster acknowledges the feedback and is attempting to apply the suggestions.

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The discussion includes a potential misunderstanding regarding the coefficients in the transformed equation, highlighting the need for careful attention to detail in the transformation process.

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[SOLVED] Change of independent variables

Homework Statement


x = cos\theta
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(1-x^2)\frac{d^2y}{dx^2} - 2x\frac{dy}{dx} + 2y = 0
becomes
\frac{d^2y}{d\theta ^2}+ cot(\theta) \frac{dy}{d\theta} + 2y = 0

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The Attempt at a Solution



dx = -sin(\theta) d\theta
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As a total stab in the dark I've tried substituting -sin(\theta) d\theta in for dx, but that didn't seem to work... and I don't think that is mathematically correct to begin with. How do I get the relationship between dy/dx and dy/dtheta? if y were given I think it would be a lot easier
 
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Use this (let me call it "inverse chain rule")

\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{dy}{d\theta} \frac{d\theta}{dx}
where you can explicitly calculate the latter factor from the equation you wrote under (3).

Once you have that, you can do the same trick again:
\frac{d^2y}{dx^2} = \frac{d}{dx} \frac{dy}{dx} = \left( \frac{d}{d\theta} \frac{dy}{dx} \right) \frac{d\theta}{dx}
 
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Did you leave out a factor of 2 for the coefficient of cot (theta) in the answer?

Should it be \frac{d^2y}{d\theta ^2}+ 2cot(\theta) \frac{dy}{d\theta} + 2y = 0 ?
 
Hey guys thanks for your replies, I'm trying it out right now.
Defennder: Nope, it's just cot
 
Got it, thanks
 
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