Change of state and potential energy

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The discussion centers on the relationship between potential energy (PE) and molecular distance during the melting of ice. It clarifies that as ice melts, the distance between molecules increases, leading to an increase in potential energy, contrary to initial assumptions that it should decrease. The force between molecules is directly linked to potential energy, with the minimum PE occurring at a specific molecular distance. The graph referenced illustrates that as the distance from the equilibrium state increases, potential energy rises. Overall, the melting process involves a complex interplay of forces and energy states.
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A book said that the PE of molecules increase during melting of ice but shouldn't it be decrease since the distance between molecules increase ?Isnt the force between the molecules determine the PE?
 
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You're right about the force ##F## and potential energy ##U## being interlinked. They have the following relation

U = -\frac{dF}{dr} \approx -\frac{\Delta F}{\Delta r}

See the below figure.
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The "rest" state of the molecules is at ##r_0##, where potential energy in minimum. If the distance increases from ##r_0##, it can be seen from the above graph that the potential energy will also increase.
 
H Smith 94 said:
The "rest" state of the molecules is at ##r_0##, where potential energy in minimum. If the distance increases from ##r_0##, it can be seen from the above graph that the potential energy will also increase.
Well, if the distance decreases from ##r_0##, doesn't the potential energy increase also ? :rolleyes:

What does the graph represent in the context of melting ice ?

see other threads on melting water, e.g. this one
Wikipedia on ice and on properties of water is good, too.
 
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