Change of the angular velocity vector

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to the change of the angular velocity vector in the context of rigid body dynamics, specifically focusing on the relationship between angular momentum, torque, and the moment of inertia tensor.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of torque and angular momentum, questioning the factors involved in their expressions. There is an attempt to apply Euler's equations for rigid body rotation, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the appropriate values for angular velocity components.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations and suggesting the use of specific equations. There are indications of differing results from various methods, prompting questions about potential errors in the approaches taken.

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Some participants note the importance of using the correct frame of reference when applying equations, as the moment of inertia tensor may change depending on the frame. There is also mention of specific values and conditions that need to be clarified for accurate calculations.

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I don't know how to solve part(b).
See the photo Q3 for the question.


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See the photo 2010Q3

I found the torque and hence the new angular momentum vector. But I wonder how could this help me to find the angle between the new and old angular velocity vector.
 

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Your result for the moment of inertia tensor looks good to me.

In your expression for the torque, I don't see where the factor of 1/2 comes from when writing R/2. [EDIT: Otherwise, I think your expression for the final angular momentum is correct].

Are you familiar with Euler's equations for rigid body rotation? I think they will lead to the answer fairly quickly. If not, then you will need to relate the final angular momentum to the final angular velocity components using the (new) final components of the moment of inertia tensor in the fixed inertial frame.
 
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Ha...That was a stupid mistake. That should be R not R/2.
 
I have learned Euler equation. But I am not sure what values to be put for those ω.
See my photo attached below
 

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Maybe a sign error for the last term of your first equation.

Use these equations at time t = 0 to find the rate of change of each component of ω at time t = 0.
 
I used both method to solve this problem.
But I discovered that the new angular velocitys (only the x component) obtained from 2 methods are not the same.
Which version is wrong?
 

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First version looks good.

For the second version, note that ##\tau = \dot L## holds only in an inertial frame. At the end of the small time interval the point mass will have rotated out of the yz plane in the fixed inertial frame. So, the moment of inertia tensor will no longer be diagonal in the inertial frame.
 
Thank you very much!
 

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