Changing Rho, Finding Resistance

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The discussion revolves around calculating the resistance of a wire with a varying resistivity defined by a function of its length. The wire has a specified cross-sectional radius, and participants are exploring how to properly integrate the resistivity function to find the resistance.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the integration of the resistivity function and its relationship to resistance, questioning the correct application of the formula. There are attempts to clarify the meaning of the notation used and the implications of the resistivity function's parameters.

Discussion Status

Some participants have identified misunderstandings regarding the integration process and the use of constants in the resistance formula. There is ongoing clarification about the correct interpretation of the variables involved, particularly the distinction between radius and area.

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There are mentions of potential typos in the resistivity function and confusion regarding the parameters used in calculations. Participants are also adapting their explanations based on the evolving understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A wire with cross-sectional radius 0.91 mm lying along the x-axis from x=0 to x=0[PLAIN]http://loncapa.mines.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmmi10/alpha/100/char3A.png90 m is made of an alloy that varies with its length in such a way that the resistivity is given by [PLAIN]http://loncapa.mines.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmmi10/alpha/100/char1A.png=6x^1 [PLAIN]http://loncapa.mines.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmr10/alpha/100/char0A.png[PLAIN]http://loncapa.mines.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmsy10/alpha/100/char01.png m, for x in meters. What is the resistance of this wire?

Homework Equations


dR=(rho)dL/A

The Attempt at a Solution


(I can't find the symbol window so bare with my explanation). Resistance is the integral of rho times length, divided by cross sectional area. I figured since L and A are constants, I could pull them out and simply do: rho, integrated from 0 to 0.9, times L/A, with everything converted to meters. Didn't work.

Then I tried not integrated and just plugging and chugging. Didn't work.

Then I came here.
 
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Homework Statement


A wire with cross-sectional radius 0.91 mm lying along the x-axis from x=0 to x=0[PLAIN]http://loncapa.mines.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmmi10/alpha/100/char3A.png90 m is made of an alloy that varies with its length in such a way that the resistivity is given by [PLAIN]http://loncapa.mines.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmmi10/alpha/100/char1A.png=6x^1 [PLAIN]http://loncapa.mines.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmr10/alpha/100/char0A.png[PLAIN]http://loncapa.mines.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmsy10/alpha/100/char01.png m, for x in meters. What is the resistance of this wire?

Homework Equations


dR=(rho)dL/A

The Attempt at a Solution


(I can't find the symbol window so bare with my explanation). Resistance is the integral of rho times length, divided by cross sectional area. I figured since L and A are constants, I could pull them out and simply do: rho, integrated from 0 to 0.9, times L/A, with everything converted to meters. Didn't work.
What didn't work? Please show what you got and how you got it.

Also, is there a typo in ##\rho##? It seems odd to me that it would be 6x1 ohms/m. I don't know why anyone would write x1 instead of just x.
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Then I tried not integrated and just plugging and chugging. Didn't work.

Then I came here.
 
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So I'm on my phone, but I integrated the rho function and multipled by L/A, L being the difference in the bounds and A being the given mm amount (converted to meters).

It's to the first power cause the numbers are random, including the exponents
 
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So I'm on my phone, but I integrated the rho function and multipled by L/A, L being the difference in the bounds and A being the given mm amount (converted to meters).

It's to the first power cause the numbers are random, including the exponents

The notation rho*dL/A doesn't mean integrate rho and then multiply by L/A. It means integrate rho WITH RESPECT to L and then divide by A. By all means, show your work. I think you are multiplying by an extra factor L. Check the units. Remember dL has units of m. Are they ohms or something else?
 
##\int dR = \int_a^b \frac{\rho}{A} dL \implies R=\frac1A\int_a^b \rho dL## You should not have to multiply by length, it is included in the integral.
 
Ok, I'm back and found out where I was going wrong. Also, the parameters change each time, so don't freak out with me inputting new numbers in my explanation.

So yes, I don't know why I was multiplying by length afterwards . . . Good to catch it now though. Anyways, I integrated the resistivity across the bounds: the integral of 4x from 0 to 0.5. Then I divided by the AREA of the given radius. That's where I was going wrong multiple times. They gave me a radius of 0.46 MM. For some reason I was using this as "A" instead of solving for A . . . So in short, integrated my resistivity function across my wire length and divided by the cross sectional area.

Got it instantly when I started writing out my variables here and realized it was radius, not area . . .
 

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