Charge flowing through/across a Capacitor?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving a capacitor with square plates separated by dry air, focusing on the charge flow across the gap over a specified time period. Participants explore the implications of resistivity and how it affects the leakage current and charge flow.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculated the capacitance and attempted to find the charge by dividing it by the time period, expressing uncertainty about their approach.
  • Another participant questioned the outcome of the division and suggested that the initial participant might have omitted important information.
  • A participant pointed out that the resistivity of air implies a resistance between the plates, indicating that the problem is about leakage current and charge flow over time.
  • One participant calculated resistance and current based on the voltage and expressed a need to find charge per second instead of energy per second.
  • Another participant corrected a previous error regarding the area used in the resistance calculation, suggesting that this affected the current value significantly.
  • A participant acknowledged the need to convert units and indicated that this correction would lead to the correct answer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to consider resistivity and its implications for charge flow, but there are disagreements regarding the calculations and the correct approach to the problem. The discussion remains unresolved as participants refine their calculations and reasoning.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential errors in unit conversions and assumptions about the relationship between current, charge, and time. The discussion reflects ongoing corrections and adjustments to calculations without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Who May Find This Useful

Students working on capacitor-related problems, particularly those involving resistivity and current flow, may find this discussion relevant.

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Homework Statement


Dry air has a resistivity of about 3*10^13 Ωm. A capacitor has square plates 10cm on a side separated by 1.2mm of dry air. The capacitor is charged to 250V. Assuming the potential difference does not change as the charge flows, what fraction of the charge will flow across the gap in 1 minute?

Homework Equations


C = Q/V, ρ = E/J, J = I/A = n*q*v, V = (ρ*L*I)/A

The Attempt at a Solution


I found a capacitance using ε, area and plate separation, multiplied this capacitance by voltage and then divided this found charge by the time period - but I strong feeling that I am on the incorrect path altogether.
 
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Miller1625 said:
divided this found charge by the time period
What does that give you?
Miller1625 said:
feeling that I am on the incorrect path altogether
Have you omitted some of the information you were given?
 
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What does that give you?

That gave me 3.07*10^-8 C/s.

Have you omitted some of the information you were given?

No, I wrote out the exact question with all given information.
 
The air between the plates has a resistivity. That means it forms a resistor between the plates. They're asking about the resulting leakage current, and how much charge flows over the given time period.
 
So, I calculated a resistance and then current from this and the voltage contained in the capacitor to get the Energy per second. But I need charge per second. What can I do?
 

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Your resistance value is not correct as your area value is not right. (10 cm)2 is not a square meter.

The above error means that your current value is off by a few orders of magnitude.

Current divided by time is not energy. What does the Ampere unit represent?
 
Ah, I should have converted units first. My bad. That fixes the resistance. And then Current is Charge/Second. Thank you, I should have the correct answer now!
 

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