Charging Up Particles: Proton Charge Explained

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The discussion revolves around the charge composition of protons in particle physics, specifically focusing on the roles of up and down quarks in determining the overall charge of a proton.

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  • Participants explore the charge contributions of quarks to the proton's overall charge and question the correct arrangement of quarks within a proton. There are inquiries about the nature of quarks and their relationship to protons, including whether quarks are considered to be "inside" protons.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the charge calculations and questioning the implications of quark structure. Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and relationships between quarks and protons, while others offer clarifications regarding the composition of protons.

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There is mention of potential confusion regarding the number of quarks and their contributions to the mass of protons, as well as the implications of how quarks are conceptualized in relation to protons.

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Hi,

Given that a " up " quark has charge of 2/3e ; a "down" quark has a charge of - 1/3e, where e is the elementary charge (+1.6 x 10^-19 C).

can is say that a proton contain 3 " up " quark and 1 "down" quark?

the charge in the end seems to add up to +1.

is what is have said correct?

p.s. i just started learning particle physics
 
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(3 x 2/3) + (1x(-1/3)) = 1?

Incase you meant 3 down quarks, then that doesn't work either - Add the masses of the quarks.
 
Charge values are: u = +2/3; d = -1/3
2 up + 1 down = +1
add the charge values.
 
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sry i meant 2 " up" quarks and 1 " down" quark. does it work now?
 
another thing i understand is that quarks isn't actually IN the proton itself isn't? so how can we say that to proton CONTAIN quarks IN it
 
what is quarks made of?
 
Delzac said:
another thing i understand is that quarks isn't actually IN the proton itself isn't? so how can we say that to proton CONTAIN quarks IN it
The proton is made up of quarks.

There aren't quarks "inside" of a proton because that implies there exists a structure called a proton independently of quarks.

Edit: Well I guess there are also gluons.
 
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neutrino said:
(3 x 2/3) + (1x(-1/3)) = 1?

Incase you meant 3 down quarks, then that doesn't work either - Add the masses of the quarks.

Summing the masses wouldn't give you any useful information for finding the number of quarks in a proton or neutron, without a lot of extra information. The sum of the quark masses is only a small percentage of the mass of a proton.

~Lyuokdea
 
Lyuokdea said:
Summing the masses wouldn't give you any useful information for finding the number of quarks in a proton or neutron, without a lot of extra information. The sum of the quark masses is only a small percentage of the mass of a proton.

~Lyuokdea
I had this feeling that my teacher was wrong. I should've checked what he said, though. :redface: I stand corrected...Thanks. :smile:
 

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