“Chasing Vertices: A Time-Bound Pursuit Problem in a Square”

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The discussion revolves around a pursuit problem involving two entities moving towards each other within a square, focusing on their velocities and the nature of their motion as they spiral towards the center. The subject area includes concepts from kinematics and dynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the changing velocities and the time it takes for the entities to meet at the center. Questions arise regarding the use of average velocity and the implications of constant radial components of velocity during the motion.

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The discussion is active with participants examining the implications of constant velocity components and questioning how to calculate time given the changing direction of motion. Some guidance is offered regarding the nature of the velocities, but no consensus has been reached on the method to determine the time.

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Participants note that the distance between the two entities is initially one meter, and there is a focus on the implications of their velocities being perpendicular and the square's shape during the pursuit.

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Homework Statement
Consider a square with a side length of 1 meter. At each vertex of the square, there is a point. Each point moves at a constant speed of 1 meter per second, and the direction of movement is always towards the next vertex. In other words, point 1 moves towards point 2, point 2 moves towards point 3, point 3 moves towards point 4, and point 4 moves towards point 1. How long will it take for all the points to meet at the center?
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Whatever equations work. Was given to us while learning about vectors.
I know that the velocities are perpendicular to each other and that they are moving in a spiral and that they will meet in the centre of the square. From that, I know the displacement of the point but I do not know how to get the time, since the velocity is always changing direction. Could I somehow take the average velocity?
 
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The radial component (towards the center) of each velocity has the same magnitude during the spiraling towards the center.
 
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nasu said:
The radial component (towards the center) of each velocity has the same magnitude during the spiraling towrads the center.
The implication is that the square remains a square as it shrinks. (As was already clear).

The radial component is independent of scale. So it is constant over time.
 
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jansons said:
since the velocity is always changing direction
Two mice are one meter apart. By how much is that distance reduced in a time interval of ##dt## ? :wink:

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This one is known as the mice problem. See also Radiodrome

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