Chebyshev polynomial - induction problem

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The discussion revolves around Chebyshev polynomials, specifically the definition and properties of Tn(x) = cos(narccos(x)) for real x in the interval [-1, 1]. Participants are tasked with finding T1(x), showing that T2(x) = 2x^2 - 1, and proving by induction that Tn(x) is a polynomial of degree n.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the derivation of T1(x) and T2(x) using trigonometric identities. There is an attempt to express Tn+1(x) in terms of Tn(x) and Tn-1(x) and to establish a basis for induction. Some participants express uncertainty about proving the degree of Tn-1(x) and its relationship to Tn+1(x).

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their reasoning and questioning the clarity of their induction steps. Some guidance has been offered regarding the induction hypothesis and the relationship between the degrees of the polynomials, but no consensus has been reached on the proof structure.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need to prove properties of polynomials without providing complete solutions, adhering to homework guidelines that emphasize understanding over direct answers.

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Homework Statement



Let Tn(x)=cos(narccosx) where x is real and belongs to [-1,1] and n E Z+
Find T1(x).
Show that T2(x)=2x^2 - 1.
Show that Tn+1 (x) + Tn-1 (x) = 2xTn(x)
Hence, prove by induction that Tn(x) is a polynomial of degree n.

The Attempt at a Solution



Since cosθ=x and arccosx=θ

we have: T1(x)=cos(arccosx)=cosθ=x.
T2(x)=cos(2arccosx)=cos2θ=cos^2 θ - sin^2 θ = 2cos^2 - 1 = 2x^2 - 1.

Tn+1 (x) + Tn-1(x) = cos((n+1)arccosx) + cos((n-1)arccosx) = 2cos(narccosx)cos(arccosx)=2Tn(x)*x.

As for the induction we have:

For n=1 T1(x)=x a polynomial of degree 1.
Assuming for n to be true, i.e.Tn(x)=cos(narccosx) is a polynomial of degree n, prove
T(n+1)(x)=cos((n+1)arccosx) is of degree n+1.

So, cos((n+1)arccosx)=cos(nθ + θ)=cosnθ*x - sinnθsinx ... Obviously this is not the way to approach the problem.

Anyway, I would prefer to hear tips from you rather than a complete solution.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Ryuky said:

Homework Statement



Let Tn(x)=cos(narccosx) where x is real and belongs to [-1,1] and n E Z+
Find T1(x).
Show that T2(x)=2x^2 - 1.
Show that Tn+1 (x) + Tn-1 (x) = 2xTn(x)
Hence, prove by induction that Tn(x) is a polynomial of degree n.

The Attempt at a Solution



Since cosθ=x and arccosx=θ

we have: T1(x)=cos(arccosx)=cosθ=x.
T2(x)=cos(2arccosx)=cos2θ=cos^2 θ - sin^2 θ = 2cos^2 - 1 = 2x^2 - 1.

Tn+1 (x) + Tn-1(x) = cos((n+1)arccosx) + cos((n-1)arccosx) = 2cos(narccosx)cos(arccosx)=2Tn(x)*x.

As for the induction we have:

For n=1 T1(x)=x a polynomial of degree 1.
Assuming for n to be true, i.e.Tn(x)=cos(narccosx) is a polynomial of degree n, prove
T(n+1)(x)=cos((n+1)arccosx) is of degree n+1.

So, cos((n+1)arccosx)=cos(nθ + θ)=cosnθ*x - sinnθsinx ... Obviously this is not the way to approach the problem.

Anyway, I would prefer to hear tips from you rather than a complete solution.

Thanks in advance.

But you already have Tn+1 (x) + Tn-1 (x) = 2xTn(x) which expresses Tn+1 in terms of lower degree polynomials. Use that.
 
Thanks for your response.

So we have Tn+1 (x) = 2xTn(x) + Tn-1(x). So, the only thing to prove is that Tn-1(x) will be of degree k<n+1 (2xTn(x) will be of degree 1 + n by the assumption). This seems obvious, but still, how could I possibly prove it?
 
Ryuky said:
Thanks for your response.

So we have Tn+1 (x) = 2xTn(x) + Tn-1(x). So, the only thing to prove is that Tn-1(x) will be of degree k<n+1 (2xTn(x) will be of degree 1 + n by the assumption). This seems obvious, but still, how could I possibly prove it?

Your induction hypothesis is Tn is a polynomial of degree n. Demonstrated for n = 1 and 2 already. All you have to do is show for your induction step is that if Tn is a polynomial of degree n, then Tn+1 is a polynomial of degree n+1. It is very easy given what you have to work with.
 

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