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The discussion revolves around the chemical potential of fictitious atoms, specifically hydrogen, used to saturate dangling bonds in materials. Participants explore the differences between the chemical potential of these fictitious atoms and that of real hydrogen, as well as implications for calculating formation energy and the use of density functional theory (DFT).

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Main Points Raised

  • Sarah questions whether the chemical potential of fictitious hydrogen differs from that in chemical potential tables.
  • One participant asserts that the chemical potential is indeed different due to variations in the external potential related to the fictitious atoms.
  • There is a discussion on how to calculate the derivative of the functional F and the chemical potential for fictitious hydrogen, with some suggesting that the exact density functional is unknown.
  • Another participant mentions that approximations exist in DFT, despite the lack of an exact density functional.
  • Concerns are raised about whether the calculated chemical potential can be used for determining formation energy, with some suggesting that real atoms are typically considered in such calculations.
  • Participants reference a paper that uses real hydrogen for saturation while discussing the implications for formation energy calculations involving fictitious hydrogen.
  • There is a debate about the treatment of energy calculations for bulk materials and how to derive per-atom energies from bulk properties.
  • Confusion arises regarding the treatment of energy calculations for different atoms and molecules, particularly in relation to dividing energies by the number of atoms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of chemical potential calculations for fictitious atoms and the implications for formation energy. There is no consensus on the best approach to calculating these values or the treatment of bulk energies.

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Limitations include the unknown exact density functional for fictitious hydrogen and the complexities involved in calculating chemical potentials and formation energies using different methods and approximations.

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Researchers and students interested in density functional theory, chemical potential calculations, and the properties of materials involving fictitious atoms may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello,

I am sorry to ask a relatively unrelated question. I need to know if the chemical potential of fictitious atoms like hydrogen used to saturate the dangling bonds is different from the chemical potential of hydrogen in common chemical potential tables.

Regards,
Sarah
 
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It's definitely different. Stealing some text from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_potential#Electronic_chemical_potential"
\mu(\mathbf{r})=\left[ \frac{\delta E[\rho]}{\delta \rho(\mathbf{r})}\right]_{\rho=\rho_{\mathrm{ref}}}

Formally, a functional derivative yields many functions, but is a particular function when evaluated about a reference electron density - just as a derivate yields a function, but is a particular number when evaluated about a reference point. The density functional is written as

E[\rho] = \int \rho(\mathbf{r})\nu(\mathbf{r})d^3r + F[\rho]

where \nu(\mathbf{r}) is the external potential, e.g., the electrostatic potential of the nuclei and applied fields, and F is the Universal functional, which describes the electron–electron interactions, e.g., electron Coulomb repulsion, kinetic energy, and the non-classical effects of exchange and correlation. With this general definition of the density functional, the chemical potential is written as

\mu(\mathbf{r}) = \nu(\mathbf{r})+\left[\frac{\delta F[\rho]}{\delta\rho(\mathbf{r})}\right]_{\rho=\rho_{\mathrm{ref}}}

And \nu(\mathbf{r}) = \frac{Z}{|\mathbf{R}-\mathbf{r}|}. So since Z=1 for ordinary hydrogen but some different number for your fictitious hydrogens, they must differ by at least that term.
 
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Thanks for the very useful reply.

Now, according to the formula of chemical potential you have kindly mentioned and the information we have from the pseudopotential of the fictitious "H", is there a way to calculate the derivative of "F" and then calculate the chmical potential of the "H"

Also, if we calculated the chemical potential, could it be used for calculating the formation energy? Or in the formation energy real atoms are considered?
 
saray1360 said:
Now, according to the formula of chemical potential you have kindly mentioned and the information we have from the pseudopotential of the fictitious "H", is there a way to calculate the derivative of "F" and then calculate the chmical potential of the "H"

Well, that'd be the usual methods for determining a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_derivative" (the WP article conveniently includes some exact values of \frac{\delta E[\rho]}{\delta\rho} for some of the simpler approximate density-functionals.) The exact density functional is not known, though.

Also, if we calculated the chemical potential, could it be used for calculating the formation energy? Or in the formation energy real atoms are considered?

Well, no, not really. And using the formula given requires that you already know the energy (E[rho]). But no quantum-chemical method I know of requires Z to be an integer.
 
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Thanks so much again.

In the enclosed paper, Solid State Communications 148 (2008) 101–104, they have saturated the dangling bonds with real hydrogen and they have calculated the formation energy.

If, we have the fictitious hydrogen with its pseudopotential, as you kindly said, we do not know its exact density functional. In this case, there's no way to calculate the chemical potential or I am wrong?
 
saray1360 said:
In the enclosed paper, Solid State Communications 148 (2008) 101–104, they have saturated the dangling bonds with real hydrogen and they have calculated the formation energy.

If, we have the fictitious hydrogen with its pseudopotential, as you kindly said, we do not know its exact density functional. In this case, there's no way to calculate the chemical potential or I am wrong?

Well, the fact that the exact density functional is unknown doesn't mean there aren't approximations. It's what DFT theory is all about. The paper you cited, for instance, used the PW91 functional. I can't say whether their software had the feature of calculating chemical potential directly using the equation above.

But there's a much simpler way (with the added bonus of being just as easily used with wave-based methods) Using the Mulliken definition of chemical potential, it's \mu_{Mulliken} = -1/2(IP+EA), where IP is the ionization potential (relative energy of the system with an electron removed) and EA is the electron affinity (relative energy of the system with an electron added).
 
Your answers have really helped me.

All the questions I asked have arised from the contrast between this papare:

http://link.aps.org/doi/10.1103/PhysRevB.77.115349

And the paper I mentioned in the previous post !

As you see, the formation energy has been presented by putting the real H molecule energy ?? (while the saturation's done with fictitious ones) !

Also, they have considered the energy of a Ga atom obtained from bulk Ga metal. What does it mean? do we have to divide the energy of the bulk to the number of atoms to get one atom energy?
 
saray1360 said:
As you see, the formation energy has been presented by putting the real H molecule energy ?? (while the saturation's done with fictitious ones) !

Unless I missed something, I believe the heat of formation was calculated with fractionally-charged hydrogens in the calculations where they used them (Dmol3). So it's a 'fictitious' heat of formation. That's not a problem though, because what they're interested in is the bulk property, not what's going on at the edges. Secondly because they're counting on the effect to more-or-less cancel out, because they chose pairs with charges 0.75 and 1.25, so the overall charge remains the same.

Also, they have considered the energy of a Ga atom obtained from bulk Ga metal. What does it mean? do we have to divide the energy of the bulk to the number of atoms to get one atom energy?

Yes, more or less like that. Usually you calculate a single unit cell or two, with periodic boundary conditions at the 'edges' - giving you the effect of calculating on an infinitely large crystal, not a tiny model.
 
alxm said:
Yes, more or less like that. Usually you calculate a single unit cell or two, with periodic boundary conditions at the 'edges' - giving you the effect of calculating on an infinitely large crystal, not a tiny model.

This is like what we do for the cohesive energy, is that right? increasing the lattice parameteres and then calculating the energy difference. But as they have also mentioned the energy of N2 molecule it appears that they calculate the energy of the bulk for Ga metal and N2 molecule and then they divide by the number of the atoms. Mixed up! because they have already divided the energy of N2 by 2 but
 
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continuing the last message, for Ga, the number of atoms in its orthorhombic cell has not been divided?! It mixes me up.
 

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