Chemistry Classes - Reading the Books

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the structure and content coverage of organic chemistry classes, particularly in relation to textbooks and course syllabi. Participants share their experiences regarding the extent of material covered in a single-semester course versus longer course formats.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that their organic chemistry class only covers a handful of chapters from the textbook, raising a question about whether this is typical for such classes.
  • Another participant reflects on their experience from the eighties, stating that they attended a three-semester course, suggesting that organic chemistry is extensive.
  • A participant mentions that a semester in their college is half a year, which may influence the amount of content covered.
  • Some participants agree that coordinating readings with the class syllabus is important to avoid "wasting time," while others argue that learning beyond the syllabus can enhance understanding.
  • One participant emphasizes that textbooks often contain more material than can be covered in a single course, attributing this to varying instructor preferences and the desire of publishers to appeal to a broad audience.
  • Another participant expresses a preference for maximizing grades, indicating a focus on course content over additional topics.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of studying extracurricular topics if they do not align with exam content, leading to mixed outcomes in assessments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the adequacy of single-semester courses and the importance of covering additional material. There is no consensus on whether focusing solely on the syllabus is the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying course lengths and structures, which may affect their perspectives on content coverage. There is an acknowledgment of the potential for textbooks to include excessive material relative to course requirements.

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I'm reading the book (Organic Chemistry by John McMurray) for my organic chemistry class at the moment and when I looked at the past exam papers and course structure I noticed it doesn't cover a lot of what I've read so far. My course only seems to cover a handful of chapters in the book. Its a single semester class. Are classes always like this as in they only cover a handful of chapters in the book?
 
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One semester organic class is awfully short, no wonder it doesn't cover too much. Back in eighties I have attended three semesters course. Organic chemistry is wast.
 
A semester in my college is half the year.
 
Are classes always like this as in they only cover a handful of chapters in the book?

Yes -- in my experience.

You should always coordinate your readings with the class syllabus, so you don't "waste time".
 
General_Sax said:
Yes -- in my experience.

You should always coordinate your readings with the class syllabus, so you don't "waste time".

There no such thing as wasting time when you're learning chemistry. I learn concepts so that I know them forever, not to pass my chemistry course. Besides a lot of the extra currular stuff I learn helps me understand the stuff I do in college better. Takes revision and putting the theory into practice to make the memories permanent though.
 
Textbooks almost always include more material than can reasonably be covered in a single course (or multiple-course sequence that the book is targeted for). This is because different courses and instructors cover somewhat different sets of topics, and publishers want to maximize sales by appealing to as many instructors as possible.

In physics, I don't remember ever taking or teaching a course in which the entire textbook was covered. (This covers a span of about forty years.)
 
Well, if you've enough time to self-study topics that aren't covered in your course, then your method works just fine.

Personally, I try to maximize my grades, so I don't study concepts that aren't covered in my courses.
 
General_Sax said:
Well, if you've enough time to self-study topics that aren't covered in your course, then your method works just fine.

Personally, I try to maximize my grades, so I don't study concepts that aren't covered in my courses.

Good point, I often spend loads of time learning extra curricular topics and when I do the test I don't do that well because it doesn't include half the stuff I learned. Maybe its best to concentrate on what the course covers.
 
cnidocyte said:
A semester in my college is half the year.

And the three semester course I have mentioned lasted a year and the half. There were several two semester courses (like GenChem, PhysChem, Analytical), but only one longer.
 

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