Chemistry HW Help: Calculating H2 Gas Yield from Zn and HCl at 825mm Hg & 42*C

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of hydrogen gas (H2) produced from the reaction between zinc (Zn) and hydrochloric acid (HCl) under specific conditions (825 mm Hg and 42°C). Participants explore the stoichiometry of the reaction, identify the limiting reagent, and apply the ideal gas law to find the gas yield.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the initial problem and attempts to convert grams of Zn to moles, arriving at 0.395 moles of Zn.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to identify the limiting reagent between Zn and HCl, suggesting that one will be in excess unless they are in stoichiometric proportions.
  • A participant corrects the formula for zinc chloride, indicating it should be ZnCl2, and advises calculating the moles of both reactants to determine the limiting reagent.
  • One participant concludes that HCl is in excess and Zn is the limiting reagent based on their calculations of moles for both substances.
  • Another participant questions the reasoning behind identifying the limiting reagent, providing a detailed calculation that shows HCl is actually the limiting reagent.
  • There is a discussion about using the ideal gas law (PV=nRT) to calculate the volume of H2 produced, with emphasis on ensuring proper units are used for pressure and volume.
  • Participants confirm the approach of finding moles of H2 and using them in the ideal gas equation to solve for volume.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is some confusion regarding the identification of the limiting reagent, with differing views expressed initially. However, a later participant clarifies that HCl is the limiting reagent based on calculations, which seems to be accepted by others. The discussion on how to proceed with calculations appears to be more aligned.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on the balanced chemical equation and stoichiometric relationships, but there are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in calculations, particularly concerning the limiting reagent and the application of the ideal gas law under the given conditions.

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Students studying chemistry, particularly those focusing on stoichiometry, gas laws, and reaction calculations, may find this discussion beneficial.

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124.7mL of a 6.0M solution of HCl is placed in a container with 25.8 grams of zinc metal. at 825mm Hg and 42*C, what volume of H2 gas can be produced from this reaction?


PV=nRT; R=0.0821 L*atm/mols*K



I don't if this is right but I decided to convert 25.8g of Zn into moles and then used the coefficients of the reaction and got 0.395mols Zn. Now, I don't know where to go from there if that is right.
 
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You are given the quantities of two reactants, so you will need to figure out which is the limiting reagent. Unless the amounts of HCl and Zn have been specifically calculated to be in stoichiometric proportions, you will end up with some excess of one of the reactants. You should then use the quantity of the limiting reagent for further calculations.
 
Oh, I'm sorry I forgot to put the reaction:

2 HCl + Zn ==> ZnCl + H2
 
Double check your formula for zinc chloride, should be ZnCl2.

With the equation, can you work out the limiting reagent? Calculate the number of moles of both Zn and HCl and then compare their ratio to the ratios indicated by the equation i.e. 2:1. Which one will be in excess?
 
I found HCl to be in excess and Zinc to be the limiting reagent.
 
How did you come to that conclusion?

n(Zn) = 25.8 / 65.4 = 0.394 moles
n(HCl) = 0.1247*6 = 0.748 moles

According to the balanced equation, the number of moles of HCl required is double the number of moles of Zn. If all of the Zn did react, then it would require 2*0.394=0.789 moles of HCl, but there isn't that much present i.e. HCl is the limiting reagent.
 
Oh, I thought because that Zinc had the least amount of moles therefore making it the limiting reagent, but your reasoning makes perfect sense. Now that we have the limiting reagent, where do we go from there? I was told that have to use PV=nRT and work our way to liters of H2.
 
Yes it is very important that you use the balanced equation to work out the LR, it will not always simply be the species present in the lowest quantities.

You are correct in suggesting the use of PV=nRT. Given that we now know that 0.748 moles of HCl will react, you can use the chemical equation to find the number of moles of H2 produced and hence its volume under the specified conditions (using the ideal gas equation).
 
So, I find the moles of H2 and then plug that in for "n" in the equation and solve for V and that should be my answer?
 
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regnar said:
So, I find the moles of H2 and then plug that in for "n" in the equation and solve for V and that should be my answer?

Yep, pretty much. Be careful with units though; have a look at the units for the ideal gas constant, R, and then decide what units the pressure and volume should be in.
 
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Yes, thank you. I converted everything to proper units before I did anything. Thank you for your help.
 

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