Chicxulub Impact: Geologically Instant Ocean Acidification

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The discussion centers around the geological implications of the Chicxulub impact, particularly regarding its role in ocean acidification and its relationship with the Deccan Traps. Participants explore the timing and effects of these events, considering both geological and chemical evidence. The conversation touches on theories related to marine extinctions and the interplay between volcanic activity and impact events.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants discuss findings from Boron isotopes in ocean sediments suggesting a geologically instant acidification of oceans following the Chicxulub impact.
  • There is a claim that the rate of acidification due to the impact is comparable to current ocean acidification rates caused by increased CO2 levels.
  • Others argue that the Deccan Traps are unlikely to be directly linked to the Chicxulub impact due to a significant time difference between the two events.
  • Some participants propose that the Chicxulub impact may have caused a rapid change in ocean acidity, independent of the Deccan Traps' volcanic activity.
  • One participant mentions that recent Argon dating suggests most volcanic activity from the Deccan Traps occurred after the Chicxulub impact, potentially complicating the understanding of greenhouse gas emissions related to earlier warming trends.
  • There is a suggestion that the impact may have vaporized a large volume of sedimentary rock, releasing carbon and sulfides that contributed to the spike in ocean acidity.
  • Participants reference a PNAS article that supports the idea that the Deccan Traps did not significantly disrupt the oceanic carbon cycle prior to the Chicxulub impact.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the causal relationship between the Chicxulub impact and the Deccan Traps, with some asserting a lack of direct linkage while others suggest the impact may have influenced volcanic activity. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these findings for understanding marine extinctions and ocean chemistry.

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Limitations include uncertainties regarding the timing of volcanic activity in relation to the impact and the complexities of measuring changes in ocean acidity and carbon levels. The discussion also highlights the dependence on various geological and chemical models to interpret the data.

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The Chicxulub impact, which volatilized massive amounts of sulfur containing rocks, caused a very rapid acidification of the oceans which can not be attributed to the Daccan eruptions.
This NY Times article discusses findings based on iostopes of Boron in ocean sediments that indicate a geologically instant acidification of the oceans following the Chicxulub impact.

The Daccan traps (resulting from an eruption of over 200,000 cubic miles of lava in about a million years) were thought to have been involved to some extent in marine extinctions at the time, but the apparent (geologically) instant acidification of the oceans at the time of the impact is taken as a refutation of that premise.

The rate of acdification due to the impact is claimed to be comparable to the current rate of acidification of the oceans due to increased CO2 levels.
 
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BillTre said:
The Daccan traps

There is only a remote possibility that the Deccan Traps in India are a result of the Chicxulub impact,
from what I have read in scientific literature when I was at univ. and since then indicate a too large a
time difference between the two event.

I do like the idea that the Chicxulub impact caused an increase in the acidity levels in the oceans and
elsewhere. Mexico's volatile volcanic history would lend credence to the probability that much material
with volcanic products was blasted into the air and would have fallen over a very large region
possibly worldwideDave
 
davenn said:
There is only a remote possibility that the Deccan Traps in India are a result of the Chicxulub impact
@BillTre isn't saying that one is the result of the other, only that the Chicxulub impact resulted in a more rapid change in acidity levels of the ocean.

My understanding is that the Deccan Traps are a result of a hot spot lying beneath the Indian Plate, similar to the effects of the hot spot in the Pacific Plate that caused eruptions that formed the Hawaiian Islands and other sea mounts in the chain, as well as a hot spot that is thought to have caused the Columbia River basalt flows and other geologic activity in Idaho, Yellowstone, and over to the Black Hills of South Dakota.
 
Mark44 said:
@BillTre isn't saying that one is the result of the other, only that the Chicxulub impact resulted in a more rapid change in acidity levels of the ocean.

Yeah I may have mis-read that a bit … sorry @BillTre

Mark44 said:
My understanding is that the Deccan Traps are a result of a hot spot lying beneath the Indian Plate,

Yes, agreed
 
While the Chicxulub impact and the Deccan traps were not causally linked, The Deccan traps having notably been tied to the Reunion hotspot, the impact does seem to have effected the eruptions.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/02/190221141511.htmEarlier this year more precise Argon dating of the various flows from the Deccan traps found that roughly three quarters to 4 fifths of the lava flows appear to have occurred thousands of years after the impact supporting the idea that the impact reinvigorated the volcanic activity. They had suggested the wrench this would throw into the pervading theory for greenhouse gas emissions having driven a earlier warming trend that forced life to adapt may have been related to the gasses escaping before the lava flows erupted which is supported by some modern volcanoes

This also appears to complicate the picture of preceding volcanic gas emissions which could fit the findings of a sudden spike in acidity as their is strong evidence that the impact hit a hydrocarbon rich area of the continental shelves instantly volatilizing a large volume of rock including all the carbon and sulfides contained in the once continuous sedimentary rock deposits that used to be there. Since the picture of when a flood basalt's gasses are emitted is largely uncertain a rapid spike in acidity could very well be spported though I haven't ead the source material(Is there any source other than the NY Times? I think I reached by article limit there earlier this year)
 
BillTre said:
@Dragrath, here is the a link to the PNAS article that was cited by the NY Times story.
Looks like its open access.

Sorry I did not include it before.
Thanks looking at the paper this seems to support existing research that PH levels remained stable suggesting the Deccan traps hadn't really upset the oceanic carbon cycle prior to the impact given the recent dating finding that most of the more intense activity of the Deccan traps has now been narrowed down to after the impact and the sharp spike in carbon levels immediately after the impact it seems to be consistent with other lines of evidence suggesting that the impact vaporization of a sizable chunk of North America's continental shelf containing hundreds of millions of years worth marine sediment was likely the primary driver of extinction.

Looks like a fairly good case for geologically rapid of injection of carbon dioxide, and other PH lowering volitiles since they are technically measuring the change in the net PH and using models to determinne likely CO2 concentrations, into the atmosphere as the primary driver of extinction at least within Marine enviornments (the focus of this paper).
 
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