Circuit help? with two batteries and resistors

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The discussion revolves around a circuit problem involving two batteries and resistors, specifically focusing on calculating current, voltage drops, and power dissipation. The subject area includes circuit analysis and Ohm's law.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the batteries and resistors in a series circuit, questioning how the second battery affects the overall voltage. There are attempts to derive equations for current and voltage drops based on the circuit configuration.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem by suggesting methods for analyzing the circuit loop. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the battery connections and the resulting calculations, with no explicit consensus reached.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about the direction of current flow and the effects of multiple voltage sources in the circuit. There is a mention of specific resistance values and the need for clarification on the calculations involved.

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Homework Statement



If R3 = 14Ω:
a. What is the current out of the 24 V battery?
b. What is the voltage drop across the R3 resistor?
c. What is the power dissipated by the 12 Ω resistor?

Homework Equations



I=V/R
V=V(R3/Rtotal)
P=I2R


The Attempt at a Solution



Answers attached but I was unsure which side I should be using or if I am able to add up Voltage from batteries?
I worked it through, just need some clarification and was wondering if I followed through correctly!
Thanks
 

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The circuit is connected in series, so the same current flows through all of the components. That means you need to take all the resistances and voltage supplies into account when calculating the current.

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One convenient way to write a suitable equation for finding I is to "walk" around the loop taking note of all potential rises and falls as you go. Potential rises or drops when you "walk over" a voltage supply depending upon the direction you're traveling; if you proceed from - to + as you go over it, it's a potential rise. For resistors, if you travel in the same direction as the current then there is a potential drop equal to I*R. The sum of all the potential rises and drops around a complete loop must be zero.

If you start at the bottom of the 24V supply and walk around the loop following the current as shown, can you write the sum of the rises and falls of potential?
 

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So does that mean the second battery actually decreases the voltage at 8V? or do the lines within the battery not switch to show direction?
I=(V1-V2)/(R+R+R) so
I=(24-8)/50=>8/25 or .32Amps
Vdrop=(.32)(14)=4.48V then another 8V from other battery. So before the last two resistors, 11.52V remain
V=(.32)(12)=3.84V
V=(.32)(24)=7.68V so after those last two resistors, V=0? does that seem right?
 
conov3 said:
So does that mean the second battery actually decreases the voltage at 8V? or do the lines within the battery not switch to show direction?
Right. When you pass through the 8V battery in the direction of the assumed current I, there is a voltage drop of 8V.
I=(V1-V2)/(R+R+R) so
I=(24-8)/50=>8/25 or .32Amps
Vdrop=(.32)(14)=4.48V then another 8V from other battery. So before the last two resistors, 11.52V remain
V=(.32)(12)=3.84V
V=(.32)(24)=7.68V so after those last two resistors, V=0? does that seem right?

Your result is okay, although you didn't have to calculate the current right away; you could have written out the equation for the entire loop first, then solved for I:

24V - I*14Ω - 8V - I*12Ω - I*24Ω = 0

Thus: I = (24V - 8V)/(14 + 12 + 24)Ω = 16V/50Ω = 0.32A
 
thank you!
then for b, voltage drop=.32(14)
and c, P=.322(12)=1.2288J?
 
conov3 said:
thank you!
then for b, voltage drop=.32(14)
and c, P=.322(12)=1.2288J?

That's the way to do it :wink:
 
I appreciate the help!
Thanks for your time :smile:
 

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