Circuit with Resistors and a Battery

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The discussion revolves around a circuit problem involving five resistors and a battery, with a known voltage of 12 V and specific resistor values. The main focus is on understanding the implications of zero current through one of the resistors (R4) and how it affects the voltage and current in the rest of the circuit.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between current and voltage in the circuit, particularly questioning how the zero current through R4 influences the potential difference across it and the other resistors. There are attempts to understand the voltage across R2 and the unknown resistor RX, as well as the implications of series and parallel configurations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively questioning the assumptions about voltage and current in the circuit. Some guidance has been offered regarding the concept of potential difference and voltage division in series circuits, but there is no explicit consensus on the values or relationships yet.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the values of the unknown resistor RX and the voltage across the resistors, as well as the implications of the zero current condition through R4. Participants express confusion about how the voltage behaves in the presence of different resistors.

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Homework Statement


A circuit is constructed with five resistors and a battery as shown. The battery voltage is V = 12 V. The values for the resistors are: R1 = 54 Ω, R2 = 142 Ω, R3 = 148 Ω, and R4 = 109 Ω. The value for RX is unknown, but it is known that I4, the current that flows through resistor R4, is zero.

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There is a picture of the circuit.

I know the current through R1 is 0.0594059406.

Here are my questions:

1) What is V2, the magnitude of the voltage across the resistor R2?
2)What is I2, the magnitude of the current that flows through the resistor R2?
3)What is RX, the value of the unknown resistor RX?
4)What is V1, the magnitude of the voltage across the resistor R1?


Homework Equations



I=V/R

The Attempt at a Solution



1) Essentially, I thought the voltage across V2 should be 12, the same as the battery because the voltage should be equal across parallel circuits. This answer is wrong, and I don't really understand why. I don't know how to use I=VR without knowing the current, which I know won't be the same and not knowing Rx.

2) I think I need the answer from 1 to do this one, and I can just use V=IR, but I don't know how to do it was Rx instead of a real number

3) Absolutely no idea.

4) I think this should be 12, but I don't think it is because of the first problem.

I am really having difficulty with this problem and would appreciate any help.
 
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If the current through R4 is zero, then all the current that flows through R1 also flows through R3. Similarly, all the current that flows through R2 must flow through Rx.

If the current through R4 is zero, what does that say about the potential at each end of R4?
 
So the potential has to be the same? How can it be the same if there are different resistors before it? I'm sorry, I'm just really not getting it.
 
hawaldko said:
So the potential has to be the same? How can it be the same if there are different resistors before it? I'm sorry, I'm just really not getting it.

The current is zero so there cannot be a difference in potential. So you need to look at how the potential at either end of that resistor is established. Consider R1 and R3. Two resistors in series form a voltage divider. How does the voltage divide across the two resistors?
 
So does that mean the the voltage across each of them is 6?
 
hawaldko said:
So does that mean the the voltage across each of them is 6?

No. How does it depend upon the resistor values? Can you work it out?
 

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