Circuits & EMF: Understanding Internal Resistance

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The discussion revolves around understanding electromotive force (emf) in circuits, particularly how internal resistance affects current flow. The original poster expresses confusion about the relationship between emf and internal resistance, indicating a lack of familiarity with advanced circuit concepts.

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify their understanding of emf and internal resistance, mentioning a vague recollection of a teacher's explanation. Some participants provide foundational definitions and principles related to emf and internal resistance, while others suggest that the original poster explore specific exam questions to further their understanding.

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Participants have engaged in clarifying the concepts of emf and internal resistance, with one participant offering basic definitions and principles. The original poster has indicated that their understanding has improved, and they plan to apply this knowledge to exam questions. There is an openness for further questions if needed.

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Hello

Iam stuck on a topic (have been for a while !) about the electro motive force around a circuit (emf). Iam also confused about how internal resistance plays a role in this.
I do vaguely remember a teacher telling me that max current is at max internal resistance (or something around those lines).
I don't do advanced electronics and circuits so I don't think you'll have to launch into long,advanced explanations :).
Sorry if this is a bit vague. If you're nto sure ill try and reword my problems :).thanks in advance
 
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Hi there Lil ze and welcome to PF,

As your inquiry is a little vague I don't really know how deep to go but I'll start with the basics.

Electromotive Force

The electromotive force (emf) of a source is defined as the potential difference across a source when no current flows. This means that the load resistance (not the internal resistance) is infinitly high (or at least very very high for a good approximation). It is also said the the emf is work done per unit charge.

Internal Resistance (r)

Inside a chemical cell (battery), the chemicals present a resistance to the flow of current, this is known as the internal resistance.

There are usually three things to remember when dealing with an internal resistance problem;

  • When no current flows in a circuit then emf = pd across source
  • When a current flows in a circuit there is a p.d. across the load resistor(R) ([itex]V_{R} = IR[/itex]) and a p.d. across the internal resistance(r) ([itex]V_{r} = Ir[/itex]).
  • From Kichhoff's second law - the current in any part of the circuit is the same, thus emf = sum of the p.d.'s - [itex]emf = IR + Ir[/itex]
 
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thanks a lot ! that seems to have cleared up some of my problems, ill do some exam Qs and see how it goes :D

thanks hootenanny
 
Lil ze said:
thanks a lot ! that seems to have cleared up some of my problems, ill do some exam Qs and see how it goes :D

thanks hootenanny

My pleasure :smile: Don't hesitate to come back if you get stuck.
 

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