EMF and internal resistance laboratory work

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The discussion revolves around a laboratory experiment focused on measuring the electromotive force (emf) and internal resistance of a battery in a closed circuit. The original poster describes their process of using a voltmeter and ammeter to gather data and calculate values related to electric power and internal resistance.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculations performed by the original poster, including the measured values of voltage and current, and the derived internal resistance. Questions arise regarding the meaning of certain symbols, the clarity of the tasks completed, and the formulation of a hypothesis and conclusion.

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Some participants provide feedback on the calculations and suggest potential hypotheses related to the battery's behavior as a circuit element. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and implications of the measurements taken, as well as the errors associated with them. The conversation indicates a collaborative effort to clarify understanding without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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The original poster mentions challenges related to language barriers and the translation of laboratory tasks, which may affect the clarity of their explanations. There is also a focus on the accuracy of the measuring instruments used in the experiment.

isorounded
1. The problem statement
I did a laboratory work in which I had to find power and internal resistance. I used an ordinary battery so it's closed circuit. I did all tasks except writing a hypothesis and conclusion I can't really think of it. I don't know what to write since I just measure using voltmeter and ammeter and then calculate Electric power and internal resistance. Can someone suggest anything pls?

Homework Equations


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E - [/B]emf, electromotive force r - internal resistance ap - calculated
U - voltage I - current

The Attempt at a Solution



Well from ammeter and voltmeter I got that Uap= 2V, Iap= 1,5 A and Eap= 4V. Then I calculated rap (rap=1,33 ohms). I found delta u(△u=+-0,25) , delta I (△I=+-0,03) and I know that electromotive force error is almost same as voltage error because power supply's resistance is usually low so R≥r and △E = △u = +-0.25 V. I found Er what led me to finding △r. △r = rap+Er = 1,33 * 0.27= 0.3591 ohms. Now I am bit confused we the results I got E = 4 +- 0.25 V and r = 1.33 +- 0,3591 ohms, please let me know if I did it wrong. Now the main thing I struggle with is writing hypothesis and conclusion. I was thinking to relate given formulas with ohm's law and formula but not sure if it's good. So can someone help me to write hypothesis and conclusion or atleast give me some ideas. Thank you.
 
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Hi iso,

isorounded said:
I used an ordinary battery
isorounded said:
because power supply's resistance is usually low
So when did you use the one and when the other ?
I can follow your 1.33 Ohm calculation, but after that I am lost in your story. What do the ##\Delta## stand for ?
You write that you did all tasks (which is good), but I have hard time guessing what all these tasks were.
 
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First of all, thank you for a response. You probably would have guessed that english is not my native language so that might be a part of the reason why you don't understand me :D And that my laboratory work is described in my native language, it doesn't make it easier, but I will try to explain as much as I can. I have used one power supply which was battery. Here is a picture of circuit
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Now Δ stands for "error" if that makes sense.

Also I will try to translate laboratory tasks step by step and it's really simple so I hope you will understand atleast this one :D

Firsly what did I use for this work: battery, voltmeter, ammeter, toggle, connecting wires.

1. Measure electromotive force of power supply(a battery's in my case).

2. Mark ammeter's and voltmeter's results when a toggle is on. Calculate rap(there is a formula above). Calculate power supply's resistance and electromotive force absolute and relative error.

3. Write down r and electromotive force results:
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And I'm pretty sure that I did all calculations right but I just can't think of hyphotesis and conclusion.
 
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Also was thinking to relate with ohm's law because r=E-U/I is derived from E=U+Ir
 
OK, so under 1. you have measured a voltage of 4 V ?
Then, under 2, you press the switch and measure 2 V and 1.5 A ?

And the hypothesis is that the battery can be represented by a circuit consisting of an ideal voltage source in series with an internal resistance. And the calculated internal resistance that would then follow is (4 V - 2 V ) / 1.5 A = 1.33 ##\Omega## according to
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So I don't understand the subscripts ap on the righthand side: I should think they stand for 'measured' (as under points 1 and 2), not for 'calculated' ; can you explain ?

Then:
I have the faint suspicion that ##\varepsilon_r## in
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stands for the relative error in the calculated internal resistance of 1.33 ##\Omega##. For your purposes that relative error (or inaccuracy, if you want) is the sum of the relative errors in the numerator and in the denominator. To estimate a value, you need the accuracy of the voltmeter and the accuracy of the current meter. Do you have those ? Are they provided on the instruments or given by teacher ?
 

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