Circular Motion: Perpendicular Force & Velocity Change Explained Quickly

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the effects of a perpendicular force on an object in circular motion, specifically addressing why such a force changes only the direction of velocity and not its magnitude. The scope includes conceptual explanations and mathematical reasoning related to uniform circular motion.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why a perpendicular force affects only the direction of velocity in circular motion, suggesting it may produce no velocity change towards the center at any instant.
  • Another participant asserts that only a force with a component parallel to an object's velocity can change the magnitude of the velocity, indicating that in uniform circular motion, the force remains perpendicular to the velocity.
  • Some participants explain that a force always perpendicular to the direction of motion does not change the magnitude of the velocity, citing energy considerations and mathematical derivations to support this view.

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Participants generally agree that a perpendicular force does not change the magnitude of velocity in circular motion, but the discussion includes varying explanations and mathematical approaches, indicating some level of complexity and nuance in understanding.

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The discussion involves assumptions about the nature of forces and motion, and the mathematical steps presented may depend on specific definitions and conditions related to the system being analyzed.

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A force on a moving object, in any direction other than direction of motion causes an overall change in velocity(both in magnitude and direction). Then in circular motion why does a perpendicular force applied change only direction and not magnitude. Is this because the force produces 0 velocity change towards the center at any instant, but overall circular velocity change? Someone please explain quickly.
 
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Only a force with a component parallel to an object's velocity can cause a change in the magnitude of the velocity. In uniform circular motion, the force is always perpendicular to the velocity, so only the direction changes.
 
A force that is always perpendicular to the direction of motion does not change the magnitude of the velocity.

One way of seeing it is considering the energy a force insert to the system (or the energy per unit time):
P=\vec{f}*\vec{}v = 0

Another way is simply taking the derivative of the magnitude of the velocity (assume 2-D case):
d(v^2)\dt= d(v_x)^2\dt + d(v_y)^2\dt = 2(a_x*v_x + a_y*v_y) = 2\vec{a}*\vec{v}= 2\m(\vec{f}*\vec{v}) = 0
 
ibc said:
A force that is always perpendicular to the direction of motion does not change the magnitude of the velocity.

One way of seeing it is considering the energy a force insert to the system (or the energy per unit time):
P=\vec{f}*\vec{}v = 0

Another way is simply taking the derivative of the magnitude of the velocity (assume 2-D case):
d(v^2)\dt= d(v_x)^2\dt + d(v_y)^2\dt = 2(a_x*v_x + a_y*v_y) = 2\vec{a}*\vec{v}= 2\m(\vec{f}*\vec{v}) = 0

I believe that should be perfectly clear to everyone. :eek:
 

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