Circular waveguide wave-equation

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The discussion centers on solving the Helmholtz equation in cylindrical coordinates, specifically focusing on the phase differential equation. The solution involves the term Ae^{im\phi}+c.c., leading to the question of why 'm' must be an integer. It is clarified that 'm' is quantized to ensure continuity at 2π, as the value of the solution must remain the same when phi is incremented by 2π. The condition for phase continuity, expressed as cos[m(φ + 2π)] = cos[mφ], holds true only if 'm' is an integer. The conversation concludes with acknowledgment that the complexity of the problem was initially overthought.
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I am solving the wave-equation (more specifically Helmholtz Eq.) in cylindrical coordinates.
I've separated the equation into 3 ODE's.
- The radial differential equation
- The phase differential equation
- The z differential equation (direction of which the EM wave propagates)

My issue is the solution to the phase's differential equation. It has the simple solution:
Ae^{im\phi}+c.c. (easy to prove).

Why is 'm' an integer?
Are the phases 'quantised'?

I've read in many books that m must be an integer to allow continuity at 2\pi, but that's as far as they go...I'm very confused...
 
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Ae^{im\phi}+c.c. is just 2Acos(m*phi) (at least if A is real). As phi is an angular coordinate then the value of the solution at phi must equal to the value of the solution at phi+2pi because they represent the same point. Hence, m is an integer. The phase isn't quantized, 'm' is quantized by the requirement that solution be single valued.
 
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Your exact explanation to 'm' is what's confusing me...
I understand that phi must equal phi+2pi, but how do you go about saying that m*phi allows the relation (or phase continuity) phi+2pi to be satisfied??
 
n0_3sc said:
Your exact explanation to 'm' is what's confusing me...
I understand that phi must equal phi+2pi, but how do you go about saying that m*phi allows the relation (or phase continuity) phi+2pi to be satisfied??

The condition

\cos[m (\phi + 2 \pi)] \equiv \cos[m \phi + 2 m \pi] = \cos[m \phi]

can be satisfied only if m is integer.

Eugene.
 
Thanks Eugene, I was thinking about the problem in too much depth.
 

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