Classical EM Wave: Can Model be Proved Wrong?

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the validity of a classical model of a photon, particularly in relation to its ability to explain certain behaviors observed in experiments, such as the double slit experiment. The focus includes theoretical implications and interpretations of experimental results.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a classical model of a photon exists and questions whether it can be proven wrong.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the specific model and the behavior it explains before proceeding with the discussion.
  • A link to a paper is provided, which presumably outlines the classical model in question.
  • A participant describes the classical wave behavior in the double slit experiment, noting that a photon can split and interfere with itself, while also discussing issues related to coincidence detection during observation.
  • The participant argues that the wave function collapse during observation raises potential problems with detecting coincidences, which they believe aligns better with a classical model of the photon.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as there are differing views on the validity and implications of the classical model of a photon, as well as the interpretation of experimental results.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks detailed definitions of the classical model being referenced and does not fully explore the assumptions underlying the claims made about photon behavior and detection methods.

calinvass
Messages
159
Reaction score
5
There is also a classical model of a photon available, which to me explains a particular behavior of it. Can this model be proved to wrong ?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Not until you tell us what this model is (with a link to your source) and what "particular behavior" is explained by it.
 
The classical wave behavior is in double slit experiment which says a photon can split and interfere with itself. Plus, we don't detect coincidences between a particular slit and the screen properly because detection involves electrons jumping to a different level within the atom. The wave collapsing during observing which way suggests possible problems with coincidence detection.That also suits better to a classical model of the photon.
 

Similar threads

High School Frequency of an EM wave in Classical and Quantum Physics
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Undergrad Frequency of EM waves in classical and quantum physics
  • · Replies 26 ·
Replies
26
Views
3K
Undergrad QED Picture of static EM Fields
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Undergrad How does EM wave geometrical attenuation affect atomic absorption?
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
High School Photoelectric and summation of photons energy
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
805
High School Question re photons/EM waves and the double slit experiment
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
High School Are Photons Real? New Study Challenges Assumptions
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
2K
Graduate Change in the EM field energy due to dispersion of a wave packet
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
3K
Undergrad "Wave-particle duality" and double-slit experiment
  • · Replies 36 ·
2
Replies
36
Views
9K
Undergrad EM Wave Components for a Photon?
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K