Classification of Groups of Order 12.

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The discussion focuses on classifying groups of order 12, specifically through the lens of semidirect products involving 3-Sylow subgroups. It establishes that if the 3-Sylow subgroups are not normal, the group is isomorphic to A_4. The classification hinges on understanding split extensions of Z_3 by groups of order 4, leading to the need for homomorphisms from Z_3 into the automorphism groups of D_4 and Z_4. The conversation clarifies that in a non-trivial semidirect product, one group is normal while the other is not, and it discusses the implications for constructing these products. The participants express confusion about the definitions and operations involved in semidirect products, particularly regarding how to interpret the operations in the context of D_4 and Z_3.
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Homework Statement


Classify the groups of order 12.


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The Attempt at a Solution


The professor has worked this out up to a point. He proved a corollary that states:

"Let G be a group of order 12 whose 3-Sylow subgroups are not normal. Then G is isomorphic to A_4."

After the proof he states:

"Thus, the classification of groups of order 12 depends only on classifying the split extensions of Z_3 by groups of order 4."

OK, fine. So I know that split extensions are semidirect products, and that there are only 2 groups of order 4. So I need to compute the following:

D_4 \times_{\alpha} \mathbb{Z}_3
\mathbb{Z}_4 \times_{\beta} \mathbb{Z}_3

(sorry, don't know how to make the symbol for semidirect products)

Here's where the confusion begins. If I compare the semidirect products above with the definition of the same, then I see that I have to find the homomorphisms \alpha: \mathbb{Z}_3 \rightarrow Aut(D_4) and \beta: \mathbb{Z}_3 \rightarrow Aut(\mathbb{Z}_4).

The second one isn't so bad, but I would really like to turn the first one around so that the homomorphism comes out of D_4. That's because I've already done a homework exercise that gives me all of the homomorphisms out of D_{2n}.

So, first question: Is D_4 \times_{\alpha} \mathbb{Z}_3 for some \alpha isomorphic to \mathbb{Z}_3 \times_{\gamma} D_4 for some \gamma? In other words, can I arrange it so that I'm looking for homomorphisms from D_4 to Aut(\mathbb{Z}_3)?

Hope the question is clear.
 
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In general, no. In a non-trivial semi-direct product one of the groups in the product is normal and the other isn't (where we think of the groups making up the product as embedded in semi-direct product in the natural way). So it isn't symmetric. But Aut(D_4) is a pretty simple group, and the homomorphisms from Z_3 into it are really easy to classify (ie, find the automorphisms of order dividing 3).
 
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In general, no.

That's what I suspected.

In a non-trivial semi-direct product one of the groups in the product is normal and the other isn't (where we think of the groups making up the product as embedded in semi-direct product in the natural way). So it isn't symmetric. But Aut(D_4) is a pretty simple group, and the homomorphisms from Z_3 into it are really easy to classify (ie, find the automorphisms of order dividing 3).

OK thanks, I'll try it.

Here's a stupid question. The definition of semidirect product of H and K with respect to \alpha is as follows.

"Let \alpha: K \rightarrow Aut(H) be a homomorphism. By the semidirect product of H and K with respect to \alpha, written H \times_{\alpha} K, we mean the set H \times K with the binary operation given by setting

(h_1,k_1) \cdot (h_2,k_2) = (h_1 \cdot \alpha(k_1)(h_2),k_1k_2)"

I'm a little unsure of what the right hand side of that last equation means. Since here H=D_4 and K=\mathbb{Z}_3, I suppose that in the first coordinate of the ordered pair I'll be multiplying in D_4, and in the second coordinate "k_1k_2" means "addition of k_1 and k_2 mod 3". Is that right? Also, I am supposing that the object "\alpha(k_1)(h_2)" is to be read as the product of \alpha(k_1) and h_2 in D_4. Is that also right?
 
\alpha is a homomorphism from K to Aut(H), so \alpha(k_1) is an automorphism, and \alpha(k_1)(h_2) is the element in H that this automorphism sends h_2 to.
 
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