Coaxial cable problem, electric field strength?

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The problem involves a coaxial cable with specified dimensions and dielectric properties, focusing on the electric field strength within the insulation as a function of radius. Participants are tasked with plotting the electric field and determining the maximum field strength in two different insulation layers, given a voltage of 1.5 kV.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants suggest using Gauss' Law to derive the electric field expressions for the two dielectric regions, while others question the correct approach to integrating the equations for potential difference across the different materials.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring different methods to express the electric field and potential difference. There is a recognition of the need to handle two distinct dielectric constants and some guidance has been provided regarding integration and the use of separate equations for each region.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering how to combine results from the two dielectric regions and whether an overall dielectric constant can be calculated. There is uncertainty regarding the correct formulation of the potential difference due to the presence of multiple dielectrics.

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Homework Statement



A coaxial cable has an inner core diameter 6mm and inner diameter of the outer sheath is 20mm. There are two layers of insulation between the conductors, the inner layer from a radius of 3mm to 9mm has relative permittivity of 8 while the outer layer from radius 9mm to 10mm has a relative permittivity of 1.5. The voltage between the conductors is 1.5kV
a. Plot the electric field strength in the insulation as a function of radius
b. Determine the max field strength in both insulators.


Homework Equations



Permittivity equation: epsilon= epsilon_0*epsilon_r

Electric field strength: E= q/4*pi*epsilon*r^2



The Attempt at a Solution



Not sure how to approach this question.
 
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roccofitz said:
Not sure how to approach this question.

Use Gauss' Law to find the form of the field for an assumed length of coax. Write the expressions for the field with respect to radial distance (note that you'll need separate expressions for the two dielectric domains). Then determine the expression for the potential difference (voltage) between the conductors for a given charge.

Next determine the capacitance of the device as C = charge/voltage , where the voltage is given by the potential difference. You should be able to use this to find an expression in terms of Voltage to replace Q/L in the field strength equations. Rewrite the field strength equations accordingly. You can now plug in your given values and plot the field strength vs radius.

Good Luck!
 
Ok wondering if this is right or even heading in the right direction.

E=Electric field strength

E= q/2*pi*epslion*L

For the two different dielectric domains, 1: r=3mm epsilon=7.08*10^-11 2: r=9mm epsilon=1.33*10^-11

V=Potential difference

V=(-q/2*pi*epsilon*L)(ln10/3)

Capacitance= q\v = (2*pi*epsilon*L)/(ln10/3)
 
roccofitz said:
Ok wondering if this is right or even heading in the right direction.

E=Electric field strength

E= q/2*pi*epslion*L


E(r) = q/(2*pi*k*epsilon0*L*r)
for relative permittivity k. so to cover the whole radius,

E(r) = q/(2*pi*k1*epsilon0*L*r) for a <= r < b
E(r) = q/(2*pi*k2*epsilon0*L*r) for b <= r < c

For the two different dielectric domains, 1: r=3mm epsilon=7.08*10^-11 2: r=9mm epsilon=1.33*10^-11

Okay, you can use two different epsilons, too. Just remember that the equation describes the field at a given radial distance, r. You had left out the r in the denominatior.

V=Potential difference

V=(-q/2*pi*epsilon*L)(ln10/3)

Capacitance= q\v = (2*pi*epsilon*L)/(ln10/3)

There are two different regions to integrate over in order to get the potential difference. What value of epsilon were you planning to plug into your voltage equation to get the overall effect?
 
Ok so I am guessing that the V equation isn't the right equation then because there are two different dielectric regions. Or is there a way of calculating an overall dielectric constant??
 
Or do you integrate it between radius 3 and 9 with dielectric constant 8 and then integrate it between 9 and 10 with dielectric 1.5?? then how do these two equations combine?? thanks for all the help by the way
 
roccofitz said:
Or do you integrate it between radius 3 and 9 with dielectric constant 8 and then integrate it between 9 and 10 with dielectric 1.5?? then how do these two equations combine?? thanks for all the help by the way

Yes. They sum. (An integral is a sum, after all)
 

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