Collision between gas molecules with liquid molecules

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interactions between gas molecules and liquid molecules at the microscopic level, particularly in the context of evaporation and condensation processes. Participants explore the energy exchange during collisions and the conditions under which gas molecules may transition to a liquid state and vice versa.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that gas and liquid molecules exchange energy and momentum during collisions, with the possibility of gas molecules sticking to the liquid if they lose enough energy.
  • Others argue that the question of gas-liquid interactions is too vague for a definitive answer, emphasizing the need for clarity in the inquiry.
  • A participant studying evaporation-condensation equilibrium describes the process of gas molecules gaining momentum to escape liquid and questions how this can be reversed through collisions with liquid molecules.
  • It is suggested that if a gas molecule loses enough energy in a collision, it may become part of the liquid, highlighting the role of energy over momentum in these interactions.
  • One participant raises the concern that the energy gained by liquid molecules during a collision could lead to their escape from the liquid surface, indicating a dynamic interplay between condensation and evaporation.
  • There is a discussion about the relationship between momentum and kinetic energy, with some participants emphasizing the practical focus on energy in these interactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and clarity regarding the processes of evaporation and condensation, with some agreeing on the role of energy in collisions while others highlight the vagueness of the initial question. The discussion remains unresolved on certain aspects, particularly regarding the specifics of energy transfer during collisions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of defining terms and conditions under which gas molecules may transition to a liquid state, as well as the potential for energy dynamics to influence these processes. There are unresolved assumptions about the energy states of molecules involved in collisions.

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What happens when a gas molecule collides with a liquid molecule at the microscopic level ?
 
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They exchange some energy and momentum. There is a chance either of the molecules or both might have low energy and stick around as part of the liquid. they might also bounce back as part of the gas. The question is too vague to get a more definitive answer.
 
The question is too vague to get a more definitive answer.[/QUOTE]I'm studying evaporation-condensation equilibrium, I have known that as water is heated some molecules begin to gain enough momentum to overcome the mutual attraction between the water molecules consequently it escapes from the surface of the water and turns to a gaseous state I was wondering how could that action be reversed, I have read that when the water vapor accumulates over the surface of the water some molecules begin to collide with the water molecules and turn back to the liquid state, I don't really understand that last part, I would be so grateful to you If you help! Thanks !
 
One process - evaporation - is the reverse of the other - condensation. If you understand one than you understand both. If the gas molecule loses enough energy in the collision it sticks and becomes part of the liquid.
 
dauto said:
One process - evaporation - is the reverse of the other - condensation. If you understand one than you understand both. If the gas molecule loses enough energy in the collision it sticks and becomes part of the liquid.
So when the gas molecule collides with a water molecule the gas molecule may lose some momentum enough to allow it get affected by the water molecules attraction force so it become a liquid again ?
 
Pretty much but, again, energy - not momentum - is the parameter you should be looking into.
 
dauto said:
Pretty much
Good, I have one more question. At the collision, as the gas molecule loses energy the liquid molecule will gain energy, can this energy be enough to make it escape from the liquid surface?? Overall, one molecule condenses while an other evaporates
 
Yes that might happen. Depends on how much energy the molecules have after the collision. If a molecule energy (including potential energy due to attraction by the liquid) is negative than the molecule is bound, otherwise it isn't.
 
dauto said:
Pretty much but, again, energy - not momentum - is the parameter you should be looking into.
But an decrease in momentum means decrease in kinetic energy, right ?
 
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ElmorshedyDr said:
But an decrease in momentum means decrease in kinetic energy, right ?

Yes, of course. But it is more practical to think about it in terms of energy as my last post explains
 
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Thanks a lot for your help! I'm grateful !
 

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