Collisions at high speed vs normal speed

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the differences in physics between high-speed collisions and normal-speed collisions, particularly in the context of damage caused by projectiles such as micrometeors and those from electromagnetic guns. Participants explore the relationship between speed, momentum, and energy in collisions, as well as the transition from simple penetration to explosive interactions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the damage caused by a projectile is proportional to its momentum, which is a function of both mass and velocity.
  • Others argue that damage is more closely related to the kinetic energy of the projectile, which increases with the square of the speed, leading to significantly greater energy at higher velocities.
  • A participant questions the specific velocity at which a particle transitions from simply passing through a target to causing an explosive effect, indicating a perceived shift in collision dynamics.
  • It is mentioned that traditional physics problems often assume elastic scattering, but in high-speed collisions, the particle may be destroyed, and energy is transferred to the target.
  • One participant suggests that the threshold for an explosive collision could be defined by the speed at which the kinetic energy is sufficient to melt or vaporize the projectile.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying perspectives on the nature of high-speed collisions and the factors that contribute to damage, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a clear consensus on specific thresholds or definitions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about energy transfer and the definitions of collision types, which may not be universally agreed upon. The exact velocity thresholds for different types of collisions remain unresolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in the physics of collisions, particularly in high-speed contexts, as well as those studying the effects of projectiles in engineering and materials science may find this discussion relevant.

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I understand that collisions at high speeds cause a lot more damage. Like when micro meteors strike satellites. Can someone explain how this physics differs from normal collisions? At what velocity do these effects become enlarged? I read about an electromagnetic gun whose projectile causes significantly more damage due to the speed of the projectile. Can someone elaborate on how this works?

Thanks amigos, -Migs

P.S. This is not a homework question! I finished M.E. a long time ago!
 
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The damage a projectile causes is proportional to its momentum, which is a product of its mass and velocity.
 
Damage is related to the amount of energy imparted. Kinetic energy of a projectile is proportional to the square of the speed, thus at higher and higher speeds the energy grows immensely.
 
Guys:

Ok, so at what point does a particle simply "explode" the target rather than simply pass though it. It's hard for me to express what I'm thinking because there clearly seems to be a transition between the particle collisions we learned about in college physics and the phenomena described by these rail guns and micrometeorites.

Comments? (And thanks for your replies!) -Migs
 
Generally physics problems assume elastic scattering, no energy is lost and the particle bounces off. In high speed collisions the particle is destroyed and energy is very definitely transferred to the target.
You could take the speed at which the kinetic energy is sufficent to melt or vapourise the projectile as a good lower limit of an explosive collision.
 
There you go! Which again makes it a bit nebulous to really know the velocity... Thanks for the words amigos. -Migs
 

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