Combustion Sustained: Starter Motor Torque/Inertia Selection

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the selection of starter motors for gas turbines, specifically focusing on the minimum torque or inertia required to initiate operation. Participants explore the roles of the compressor and turbine in this context, considering both theoretical and practical implications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the minimum torque or inertia to be overcome by the starter motor pertains to the compressor, the turbine, or both.
  • Another participant suggests that the turbine is the primary consideration, highlighting the importance of the gearbox in the starting process.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes the need for the starter motor to spin the entire shaft, noting that the movement of the blades will increase the required torque.
  • One participant proposes that once the shaft reaches a moderate speed and gas is released to the combustor, the process may become self-sustaining.
  • A sarcastic remark is made about the ease of designing jet engines, indicating a potential underestimation of the complexities involved.
  • Another participant posits that starter motors are mainly for compressors, as the compressor must operate to supply air for combustion, while acknowledging that once combustion starts, the turbine drives the compressor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the primary role of the starter motor in relation to the compressor and turbine, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions about the roles of the compressor and turbine that may not be fully articulated, and the discussion includes varying interpretations of the starting process and the interactions between components.

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In selecting starter motor for a gas turbine, which minimum torque or inertia is it supposed to overcome, it that of the compressor or the turbine, or both.
 
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I would assume it would be the turbine. The gearbox would play an important role in getting the engine started.
 
If you're spinning the shaft to start it, then you'll obviously need something to spin the shaft...the whole thing. In addition to that, the blades will be moving air, so that will increase the torque required.
 
I would assume once the shaft is spinning at a moderate speed and the gas is let out to the combustor, the process becomes self sustaining?
 
Oh yea. Jet engines are super easy to design. You'll be adding a high-pressure spool in a month.

edit: I should add this post may contain extreme levels of sarcasm.
 
I assume starter motor are predominantly for compressors (even though turbine is attached from a coomon shaft) ; because after combustion start turbine start to move & carryout combustion one must move compressor such that air is sucked & compressed to combustor. However once process is self-sustained its the opposite; turbine movement causes compressor to move!
 

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