Commutator problem (position, momentum)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the commutator between the momentum operator and the position operator raised to a power, specifically [p_x, x^3]. Participants explore different methods of expansion and the resulting coefficients, highlighting inconsistencies in their calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation for [p_x, x^3] that yields -2iħx^2, but notes inconsistencies depending on the method of expansion used.
  • Another participant points out a potential error in the application of the commutator rule, suggesting that the correct form is [X, AB] = [X, A]B + A[X, B].
  • A different approach is suggested, involving the use of a wavefunction from Schwartz space and the position representation to verify the results without relying on Leibniz's rule.
  • A later reply proposes a corrected evaluation of the commutator, stating it should yield -3iħx^2.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing results for the commutator, with no consensus reached on the correct evaluation. Multiple competing views and calculations remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential misunderstandings in applying the commutator rule and the implications of using different mathematical approaches, but do not resolve these issues definitively.

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I'm having some difficulties with a certain commutator producing inconsistent results. Specifically I'm referring to

[tex][p_x,x^3][/tex]

Depending on how i expand this it seems i get different coefficients, i.e

[tex][p_x,x^3]=[p_x,x]x^2+x^2[p_x,x]=-i\hbar x^2 -x^2i\hbar=-2i\hbar x^2[/tex]

However

[tex][p_x,x^3]=[p_x,x^2]x+x[p_x,x^2]=([p_x,x]x+x[p_x,x])x+x([p_x,x]x+x[p_x,x])=-i4\hbar x^2[/tex].

Clearly I'm missing something here, but i can't quite figure out what.
 
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The rule is ##[X,AB] = [X,A]B + A[X,B]##. You seem to be using ##[X,AB] = [X,B]A + A[X,B]## instead.
 
Put a wavefunction from the Schwartz space over the reals to the right of the commutator, use the position representation, don't use Leibniz, but only the definition and check which of the 2 results is right.
 
Yes of course, it should be

[tex][p_x,x^3]=[p_x,x]x^2+x[p_x,x^2]=-3i\hbar x^2.[/tex]

Thank you!
 

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