Compact Operators on a Hilbert Space

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The discussion revolves around the properties of compact operators on an infinite-dimensional separable Hilbert space, specifically examining the isomorphism between the space of compact operators and its relationship to direct sums and matrix representations. Participants explore the implications of partitioning Hilbert space bases and seek clarification on the validity of certain mathematical assertions.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of the isomorphism between the space of compact operators and the direct sum of multiple copies of the Hilbert space, expressing confusion about how this could imply a larger number of compact operators.
  • Another participant suggests that the ability to partition a countably infinite set into disjoint countably infinite sets supports the initial claim about the isomorphism.
  • A later reply emphasizes that any infinite-dimensional separable Hilbert space can be decomposed into a finite or countable number of direct summands, but raises the question of the underlying reasons for this property.
  • One participant expresses concern about the lack of references in textbooks to support their understanding of the topic.
  • Another participant challenges a specific claim made earlier in the discussion, indicating that there may be inaccuracies present.
  • A request for assistance is made regarding proving that the set of all compact operators on a Hilbert space forms a vector space.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the ability to partition Hilbert space bases, but there is disagreement regarding the implications of this for the properties of compact operators. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views present.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about specific mathematical claims and the lack of proofs in available literature. The discussion highlights the complexity of the relationships between compact operators and Hilbert space decompositions.

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Hello, I hope I am asking this in the right area of the forums. My teacher wrote the following formula down at our last meeting, and I was wondering if it was true ( \mathcal{H} is the infinite dimension separable Hilbert space):

\mathcal{K} (\mathcal{H}) \approx \mathcal{K} (\mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H})\approx M_{4} (\mathcal{K} (\mathcal{H}))

I'm pretty sure this is true, but I am worried I am crazy, because I don't understand how every compact operator could secretly be 16 compact operators.

I think one formula that could aid in the proof of the above isomorphism is:

\mathcal{H} \approx \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H}

which I believe to be true considering that \mathcal{H} \cong \mathpzc{l}^2 ( \mathbb{N} ). So let

\mathcal{W} = \mathpzc{l}^2 (\mathbb{N}) \oplus \mathpzc{l}^2 (\mathbb{N}) \oplus \mathpzc{l}^2 (\mathbb{N}) \oplus \mathpzc{l}^2 (\mathbb{N}) \cong \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} .

From this, we take the maximal orthonormal bases (e_n)_i \text{ of } \mathcal{H}_i = \mathcal{H} \text{ for } i = 1, 2, 3, 4 \text{ and set } (b_n) \subseteq \mathcal{W} by

(b_1) = (e_1)_1 , (b_2) = (e_1)_2, \ldots , b_4 = (e_1)_4 , b_5 = (e_2)_1 , \ldots

which is a countable maximal orthonormal basis for \mathcal{W}. This shows

\mathpzc{l}^2 (\mathbb{N}) \cong \mathcal{W} \cong \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \qedsymbol

but I can't find any proofs like this in any of my textbooks, which makes me feel like I am making a mistake. Can anyone please help me?
 
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They sound believable. It looks like just another manifestation of the fact a countably infinite set can be split into two disjoint countably infinite sets.
 
lunde said:
Hello, I hope I am asking this in the right area of the forums. My teacher wrote the following formula down at our last meeting, and I was wondering if it was true ( \mathcal{H} is the infinite dimension separable Hilbert space):

\mathcal{K} (\mathcal{H}) \approx \mathcal{K} (\mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H})\approx M_{4} (\mathcal{K} (\mathcal{H}))

I'm pretty sure this is true, but I am worried I am crazy, because I don't understand how every compact operator could secretly be 16 compact operators.

I think one formula that could aid in the proof of the above isomorphism is:

\mathcal{H} \approx \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H}

which I believe to be true considering that \mathcal{H} \cong \mathpzc{l}^2 ( \mathbb{N} ). So let

\mathcal{W} = \mathpzc{l}^2 (\mathbb{N}) \oplus \mathpzc{l}^2 (\mathbb{N}) \oplus \mathpzc{l}^2 (\mathbb{N}) \oplus \mathpzc{l}^2 (\mathbb{N}) \cong \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} .

From this, we take the maximal orthonormal bases (e_n)_i \text{ of } \mathcal{H}_i = \mathcal{H} \text{ for } i = 1, 2, 3, 4 \text{ and set } (b_n) \subseteq \mathcal{W} by

(b_1) = (e_1)_1 , (b_2) = (e_1)_2, \ldots , b_4 = (e_1)_4 , b_5 = (e_2)_1 , \ldots

which is a countable maximal orthonormal basis for \mathcal{W}. This shows

\mathpzc{l}^2 (\mathbb{N}) \cong \mathcal{W} \cong \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \oplus \mathcal{H} \qedsymbol

but I can't find any proofs like this in any of my textbooks, which makes me feel like I am making a mistake. Can anyone please help me?

What you have stated is true, but the point is rather mysterious.

You can, of course, break any infinite-dimensional separable Hilbert space into any finite (or countable) number of direct summands -- simply look at the closed span of some partition of a Hilbert space basis. This is essentially what you have above.

The question is, "why ?".
 
Yeah, the idea of partitioning the basis makes total sense. For some reason I just hadn't been able to find anyone saying that this statement was true, so I started to get worried. But the reason I was interested in a Hilbert space being equal to the direct sum of 4 had to do with the compact operator question I posted at the top of the page. Thanks for your help.
 
that's not right...
 
Which part isn't right?
 
how to prove that the set of all compact operators on a hilbert space is a vector space.. help..
 

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