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The discussion focuses on understanding the proof of Theorem 3.36 from Karl R. Stromberg's "An Introduction to Classical Real Analysis," specifically regarding compact topological spaces. Participants clarify that the neighborhood \( U \) defined as \( U = \bigcap_{k=1}^n U_{y_k} \) is indeed a subset of \( S' \), the complement of \( S \), by demonstrating that if \( U \) were not a subset of \( S' \), it would lead to a contradiction with the disjoint nature of the sets involved. The necessity of compactness in the theorem is emphasized, as it ensures the existence of a finite subcover, which is crucial for the argument's validity.

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I am reading Karl R. Stromberg's book: "An Introduction to Classical Real Analysis". ... ...

I am focused on Chapter 3: Limits and Continuity ... ...

I need help in order to fully understand the proof of Theorem 3.36 on page 102 ... ... Theorem 3.36 and its proof read as follows:

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In the above proof by Stromberg we read the following:

" ... ...Next let $$U = \bigcap_{ k = 1 }^n U_{ y_k }$$. Then $$U$$ is a neighbourhood of $$x$$ and $$U \subset S'$$ ... "
My question is as follows:

It seems plausible that $$U \subset S'$$ ... ...

... ... BUT ... ...

... how would we demonstrate rigorously that $$U \subset S'$$ ... ... ?

(Note that $$S'$$ is $$S$$ complement ...)

Help will be much appreciated ... ...

Peter=================================================================================The above post mentions Hausdorff spaces ... so I am providing access to Stromberg's definition of a Hausdorff space ... as follows:
View attachment 9135I believe it may be helpful to MHB readers to have access to some of Stromberg's terminology and notation associated with topological spaces ... so I am providig access to the same ... as follows:
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Hope that helps ... ...

Peter
 

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Hi Peter,

If $U\not\subset S'$, there is an element $u\in U\cap S$. Since the $V_y$ cover $S$, $u\in V_{y_n}$ for some $n$.

On the other hand, as $u\in U$, $u\in U_{y_k}$ for all $k$. In particular, $u\in U_{y_n}$ and this contradicts the fact that $U_{y_n}$ and $V_{y_n}$ are disjoint.

Note that the fact that $S$ is compact is essential (the theorem would obviously be false otherwise); do you see why?
 
For each $k$, $U_{y_k}$ is disjoint from $U_{y_k}$. Therefore $U$ is disjoint from $V_{y_k}$ (because $U\subseteq U_{y_k}$). That holds for each $k$, and so $U$ is disjoint from $$ \bigcup_{k=1}^n V_{y_k} = V$$. But $S\subseteq V$, so $U$ is disjoint from $S$, in other words $U\subseteq S'$.Edit. Sorry, I didn't see that castor28 had already replied.
 
castor28 said:
Hi Peter,

If $U\not\subset S'$, there is an element $u\in U\cap S$. Since the $V_y$ cover $S$, $u\in V_{y_n}$ for some $n$.

On the other hand, as $u\in U$, $u\in U_{y_k}$ for all $k$. In particular, $u\in U_{y_n}$ and this contradicts the fact that $U_{y_n}$ and $V_{y_n}$ are disjoint.

Note that the fact that $S$ is compact is essential (the theorem would obviously be false otherwise); do you see why?

Thanks castor28 ... ...

You write:

" ... ... Note that the fact that $S$ is compact is essential (the theorem would obviously be false otherwise); do you see why? ... ... "Intriguing question ... Not sure I see why ... can you help ...

Mind you ... the argument given depends on having a finite subcover of S which arises via compactness ... but do we really need a finite cover ... would an infinite cover work with slightly amended arguments ... again ... I am not sure ...Peter

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Opalg said:
For each $k$, $U_{y_k}$ is disjoint from $U_{y_k}$. Therefore $U$ is disjoint from $V_{y_k}$ (because $U\subseteq U_{y_k}$). That holds for each $k$, and so $U$ is disjoint from $$ \bigcup_{k=1}^n V_{y_k} = V$$. But $S\subseteq V$, so $U$ is disjoint from $S$, in other words $U\subseteq S'$.Edit. Sorry, I didn't see that castor28 had already replied.

Thanks for the hep, Opalg ...

Peter
 
Hi Peter,

You need that to ensure that $U$ is a neighborhood of $x$. In a topological space, any union or any finite intersection of open sets is open, but that does not hold for infinite intersections.

For example, in $\mathbb{R}$, the intersection of the open intervals $\{(-x,x)\mid x\ne0\}$ is the singleton $\{0\}$, which is not open.
 
castor28 said:
Hi Peter,

You need that to ensure that $U$ is a neighborhood of $x$. In a topological space, any union or any finite intersection of open sets is open, but that does not hold for infinite intersections.

For example, in $\mathbb{R}$, the intersection of the open intervals $\{(-x,x)\mid x\ne0\}$ is the singleton $\{0\}$, which is not open.

Thanks for that really subtle and interesting point, castor28 ...

Peter
 

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