Comparing Tension: 2 Horses vs. 1 Horse Pulling on Strong Man Anchored to Tree

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The discussion revolves around the comparison of tension forces in a scenario involving a strong man being pulled by one or two horses, with considerations of how the setup changes depending on whether the horses pull in opposite or the same direction. The problem touches on concepts of tension, force equilibrium, and static conditions in a physics context.

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  • Participants explore how the tension in the rope changes based on the number of horses pulling and their direction. Questions arise regarding the cancellation of forces when two horses pull in opposite directions and the implications for tension when one horse is tied to a tree.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering insights into the nature of tension in static scenarios and the effects of opposing forces. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between the forces exerted by the horses and the resulting tension, but no consensus has been reached on the implications of cutting the rope or the exact nature of the forces involved.

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Participants are considering the effects of static conditions and the absence of friction in their analysis. The setup involves assumptions about the forces exerted by the horses and the strong man’s ability to withstand these forces.

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The strong man can withstand the tension force exerted by the two horses pulling in opposite directions. How would the tenstion compare if only one horse pulled and the left of the rope were tied to a tree? How would the tension compare if the tow horses pulled in the same direction, with the left rope tied to tree.

T= tree
M=man
H=horse
HH= 2 horses (duh)
----- indicates rope
---> indicates that the horse is pulling this way
<--- indicates that the horse is pulling this way

<---H----------M----------H--->

T-------M------------H--->

T-------M--------HH--->


The distances of rope are suposed to be the same i just didnt draw them the same, sorry.

Am I correct in saying that the man can withstand the two horses pulling in opposite directions becase they are both on the same object, him, and that they are equal so they cancel?

Also is it correct to say that the tension between the man and the tree while having 2 horses pull on it is twice that of one horse pulling on the man anchored by rope to the same tree?

:confused:

Thanks for looking,
Steve
 
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If two horses are pulling in the same direction, they would pull with twice the force of one horse, assuming each horse exerts the same force.

What if the man or horse in not moving, what can one say about the tension in the rope when tied to the tree or to another horse pulling in the direction of the tree?

Two horses pulling in opposite direction provide no net force, and therefore no acceleration. Although the forces cancel, there is tension in the line because there are opposing forces at each end.
 
A trick here is to cut the rope. What force is left if the rope is static?


-----H
-----H
-----HH
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weight? since there is no force of friction because its not moving. Static refers to an object not moving correct?
 
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