News Compassion versus Military Action - Which Will End Global Terrorism?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of U.S. foreign policy, particularly regarding Iran and the potential for military action. Participants express concerns about the reliability of intelligence and the rationale behind preemptive strikes, questioning whether such actions genuinely protect American lives or merely escalate tensions. The debate highlights differing perceptions of terrorism, the effectiveness of aggressive foreign policies, and the moral implications of collateral damage in military conflicts. Some argue that preemptive actions could alienate global support, while others believe they are necessary to deter threats from regimes perceived as aggressive. The conversation also touches on the historical context of Islamic expansionism and the complexities of democratization in the Middle East, with participants debating the potential consequences of U.S. actions on regional stability and the broader fight against terrorism. Overall, the thread reflects deep divides in opinion on how best to approach national security and international relations in the face of perceived threats.
  • #101
loseyourname said:
People would fight not to eat larger, tastier crops that grow faster and use up less land?

Yeah, it's a b!tch when your bite of a sandwich kicks off a deadly food allergy becasue sombody spliced in a Shellfish Gene into wheat.

loseyourname said:
Is there a crop in use today that hasn't been genetically altered? Or is he only opposed to splicing and would rather wait several generations to insert new genes through cross-breeding?
The problems is not necessarily with what is known but with the UNKNOWN. Some cross contamination has happened with crops in the UK where certain weeds are now resistant to herbicides.

Do we need to engineer our own Kudzu now?
 
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  • #102
Smurf said:
In that case they're fighting for the right to eat food that's not been chemically and genetically altered by American corporations. Same deal, just different business.

David Suzuki would never support the production of another 3-4 billion or so vehicles. He also wouldn't support you're so called advanced agriculture, as he as expressed, like any smart person, a sever distrust for the genetic and chemical engineering of nature.

Let's see... most people are not "smart"... but all people get hungry...

Red meat will kill ya?... no, in this case, green meat will kill ya...

people of the future will not know what REAL organic food will be... it's just not possible (unless you think we will stop reproducing)... Dr. Suzuki will have to face it and work with the factors and truths that exist... he will have to adjust his beliefs a bit.
 
  • #103
loseyourname said:
People would fight not to eat larger, tastier crops that grow faster and use up less land?
Not everyone judges with the same criteria as the US government.
 
  • #104
people of the future will not know what REAL organic food will be...
I fear you might be correct about that.
Let's see... most people are not "smart"... but all people get hungry...

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he will have to adjust his beliefs a bit.
What? Make a point dude, stop talking gibberish.
 
  • #105
Smurf said:
David Suzuki would never support the production of another 3-4 billion or so vehicles.
what vehicles are you talkin bout?
He also wouldn't support you're so called advanced agriculture, as he as expressed,
He will need to make some concessions on his beliefs as it's not likely organic food will exist for him to support...

like any smart person, a sever distrust for the genetic and chemical engineering of nature.
again, most people are not smart... but everyone gets hungry...

Choice is there for those who can afford it... everyone else will be shopping at walmart and costco
 
  • #106
outsider said:
what vehicles are you talkin bout?
The volkswagons.
He will need to make some concessions on his beliefs as it's not likely organic food will exist for him to support...
You don't think organic food will exist in 10 years?

again, most people are not smart... but everyone gets hungry...

Choice is there for those who can afford it... everyone else will be shopping at walmart and costco
once again, what's your point?
 
  • #107
Smurf said:
once again, what's your point?
like any smart person, a sever distrust for the genetic and chemical engineering of nature.
you asked this... so i said.. most people are not smart... but everyone gets hungry... world's population will continue to grow... hence the need for vast amounts of food... no choice, so we will have to eat genetically modified foods that can grow faster, larger and tastier... and since there will be no real organic alternatives, Dr. Suzuki, who you said would never support genetically altered foods, will have to make concessions to continue to help humanity...

You started the suppository statements, so I was just playing along... nevermind... let's get back to how compassion will end global terrorism vs militia.
 
  • #108
What? You think there's not enough food in the world? Honestly? Look around you man! We're paying farmers not to grow more food because we have too much! The problem is distribution, not growth methods. It's not hard to grow food and unless you can give them wings GMing them isn't going to fix any problems.
 
  • #109
Smurf said:
Yeah! Then in 20 years we have to come up with a real plan because we've destroyed the planet and the insurgency is now fighting for a few miles of clean land to grow food on.
let's just say that I was playing along with this... never expected to clarify it for you so that we'd make it into a discussion :bugeye:
 
  • #110
Smurf said:
What? You think there's not enough food in the world? Honestly? Look around you man! We're paying farmers not to grow more food because we have too much! The problem is distribution, not growth methods. It's not hard to grow food and unless you can give them wings GMing them isn't going to fix any problems.
This is relevant to the thread.

When the cheap energy (fossil fuels) is gone, food will need to be produced locally. Eliminating hunger is compassion. I know this because my children are much happier when I feed them. :biggrin:

Gary Hart in his essay "The Fourth Power" talks about switching from a consumption based economy, to a production based economy. I never did any further research into the topic, but I think I will now because he may just be on to something.
 
  • #111
Skyhunter said:
This is relevant to the thread.

When the cheap energy (fossil fuels) is gone, food will need to be produced locally. Eliminating hunger is compassion. I know this because my children are much happier when I feed them. :biggrin:

Gary Hart in his essay "The Fourth Power" talks about switching from a consumption based economy, to a production based economy. I never did any further research into the topic, but I think I will now because he may just be on to something.
Well, the Kushi Foundation stated they did research into increasing crops 4 fold by mixed cropping with organic seed but I doubt Monsanto will fund any further research into this.

You'll also find a theoretical approach to desert recovery in One World.
 
  • #112
Clearly compassion will end the circle of madness... if everyone understood how pointless capitalism is... then we would all have fun playing internet games all day... going for jogs... doing regular jobs... eat decent meals and sleep a full 8hrs every night (except for PFers who are on 25hrs a day).
 
  • #113
I'm on a 16 hour day right now actually. I sleep twice a day and PF inbetween.
 

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