Complex Analysis: Solving z^2 = sqrt(z) & Mapping of Plane

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the function f(z) = sqrt(z) and its implications in complex analysis, specifically addressing the equation z^2 = sqrt(z) and the mapping characteristics of the complex plane under this transformation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the conditions under which sqrt(z^2) equals z, questioning the implications of the branch of the square root function being used. There is also inquiry into the nature of stretching and shrinking in the complex plane under the transformation.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively questioning the assumptions behind the problem, particularly regarding the multivalued nature of the square root function and the implications of different branches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the restrictions on the argument of z, and there is a productive exploration of specific examples to illustrate points of failure in the initial assumptions.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the constraints of the problem, particularly the range of the argument of z and how it affects the validity of the equation. Participants are also considering the implications of distance in the complex plane and how it relates to the transformation being analyzed.

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Homework Statement



Let f(z) = sqrt(z) be the branch of the square root function with sqrt(z) = (r^1/2) (e^iΘ/2),
0≤Θ<2\pi, r > 0

(a) for what values of z is sqrt(z^2) = z?

(b) Which part of the complex plane stretches, and which part shrinks under this transformation?

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The Attempt at a Solution



Ok so for this branch i believe the function will map all points within 0≤Θ<2\pi to the upper half plane (ie Im(f) > 0).

I do not really understand what part a is asking and for part b it seems everything is shrunk.
 
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For part (a), it is asking for ##z:f(z^2)=z##
For part (b) please show your reasoning. What does it mean to say that the complex plane has shrunk or stretched? How would you tell?
 
Simon Bridge said:
For part (a), it is asking for ##z:f(z^2)=z##
For part (b) please show your reasoning. What does it mean to say that the complex plane has shrunk or stretched? How would you tell?

For part a do we have to consider the principal nth root? Or particular branches of the square root function?

In otherwords where this function is not multivalued?
 
DotKite said:
For part a do we have to consider the principal nth root? Or particular branches of the square root function?

In otherwords where this function is not multivalued?

No, the function is not multivalued. Your OP has given the branch which you should consider:

f(re^{i\theta}) = \sqrt{r} e^{i\theta/2}

where ##0\leq \theta< 2\pi##. That last restriction on ##\theta## makes sure it's not multivalued.
 
micromass said:
No, the function is not multivalued. Your OP has given the branch which you should consider:

f(re^{i\theta}) = \sqrt{r} e^{i\theta/2}

where ##0\leq \theta< 2\pi##. That last restriction on ##\theta## makes sure it's not multivalued.

then wouldn't part a be true for all z then? It seems obvious that sqrt(z^2) = z for all z. Why would that not be the case?
 
DotKite said:
then wouldn't part a be true for all z then? It seems obvious that sqrt(z^2) = z for all z. Why would that not be the case?

Can you prove it?
 
DotKite said:
then wouldn't part a be true for all z then? It seems obvious that sqrt(z^2) = z for all z. Why would that not be the case?
Let z = e^{i3\pi/2}. Then
z^2 = (e^{i3\pi/2})^2 = e^{i3\pi} = e^{i\pi} since we need 0 \leq \arg(z^2) &lt; 2\pi. But then
f(z^2) = (e^{i\pi})^{1/2} = e^{i\pi/2} \neq z.
That's one z for which f(z^2) \neq z. Are there others?
 
It seems the equation fails for values of z where when you square them the argument is outside of 0 to 2pi
 
^Good which z are those? What can you say about their real and imaginary parts?

For (b) Suppose we have two nearby points so that d(P1,P2)=h
what can we say about d(sqrt(P1),sqrt(P2))?
which is bigger? What is the formula for distance? (you could also consider areas)
 
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lurflurf said:
^Good which z are those? What can you say about their real and imaginary parts?

For (b) Suppose we have two nearby points so that d(P1,P2)=h
what can we say about d(sqrt(P1),sqrt(P2))?
which is bigger? What is the formula for distance? (you could also consider areas)

For part a it would be all z such that 0≤arg(z)≤pi. Therefore im(z) > 0.

Is the distance formula just the standard Euklidian distance formula?
 
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^yes consider a short segment in the complex plane
If the length is h say what is the length after taking square root
Where in the plane does a segment stretch and where does it shrink?
Hint find where the length does not change. That region will separate the other two.
 

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