Complex functions with a real variable (graphs)

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of complex functions as a positive real variable \( t \) approaches infinity. Participants are examining the movement of specific functions in the complex plane, including \( y = t^2 \), \( y = 1 + i t^2 \), and \( y = \frac{2 + 3i}{t} \).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the paths traced by the functions in the complex plane, with some attempting to visualize the movement as circular, parabolic, or hyperbolic. Questions arise about the nature of these paths and how to correctly interpret the functions' behavior.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the functions' behaviors, with some participants beginning to clarify their understanding. Various interpretations are being discussed, particularly regarding the movement of \( y = t^2 \) and the implications of plotting complex numbers.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion over the notation used, suggesting that using a different variable might reduce misunderstandings. There is also a recognition that the functions' values can be real or complex, impacting their graphical representation.

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Homework Statement



How do the values of the following functions move in the complex plane when t (a positive real number) goes to positive infinity?

y=t^2

y=1+i*t^2[/B]

y=(2+3*i)/t

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought:

y=t^2 - along a part of a line that does not pass through the origin

y=1+i*t^2 - along a part of parabola


y=(2+3*i)/t - along a part of hyperbola

Unfortunately everything is wrong. I understand that e.g. y=1+i*t^2 is a line =1 and a parabola but I don't know how to connect it. Could you give me a hint how to visualise this?
Other possibilities: spirals inward/outward, clockwise/counterclockwise, along a circle, radially inward/outward


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With ##t## as a parameter, you are not plotting ##y## against ##t##, but simply the locus of ##y## in the plane.
 
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PeroK said:
With ##t## as a parameter, you are not plotting ##y## against ##t##, but simply the locus of ##y## in the plane.

I am trying to imagine it. So e.g. t^2 would move counterclockwise along a circle? (Moving parabola?)
 
Poetria said:
I am trying to imagine it. So e.g. t^2 would move counterclockwise along a circle? (Moving parabola?)

I got the second one right, moving along part of a line... Wow! I am beginning to understand.
 
Poetria said:
I am trying to imagine it. So e.g. t^2 would move counterclockwise along a circle? (Moving parabola?)

Note that for the first locus ##y## is always real.
 
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PeroK said:
Note that for the first locus ##y## is always real.

Is it simply a parabola in this case?
 
Poetria said:
Is it simply a parabola in this case?

As for the third I guess it spirals clockwise inward as t^(-1).
 
Poetria said:
Is it simply a parabola in this case?

Why not simply plot ##y##? You seem to be still thinking that you are plotting real ##y## against real ##t## on a normal 2D graph. That's not the case at all.

You are plotting a single complex number ##y## as its value changes.

If ##y## is real then it is confined to the real line and cannot be a parabola!
 
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Poetria said:
As for the third I guess it spirals clockwise inward as t^(-1).
No. In particular, I'm not sure how you got the clockwise motion?
 
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Perhaps there would be less confusion for the OP if the variable had been called ##z## instead of ##y##. Especially since complex numbers are usually expressed as ##z = x + iy##. Pretty poor notation for the problem if you ask me.
 
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PeroK said:
No. In particular, I'm not sure how you got the clockwise motion?

Thank you very much for your patience. :)
I tried plotting and got the third right.
 
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Poetria said:
Thank you very much for your patience. :)
I tried plotting and got the third right.

Ok. I got all the three right. Phew. It is very simple in fact. :(
 
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