Complex numbers and completing the square

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The problem involves finding a complex number \( z \) such that \( z^2 = z' \), where \( z' \) is given as \( (a, b) \). The discussion centers around the representation of complex numbers and the manipulation of their real and imaginary components.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss comparing real and imaginary components of the equations derived from \( z^2 = z' \). There are attempts to manipulate these equations through subtraction and completing the square. Some participants suggest using polar form for simplification, while others express hesitation due to a lack of prior knowledge on the topic.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants provide suggestions for alternative methods, such as polar form, while others question the interpretation of \( z' \) and its implications for the problem. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

One participant notes that their textbook had not defined polar form, which influenced their reluctance to use it. There is also a clarification regarding the notation of \( z' \), with some confusion about whether it represents a complex conjugate or a different complex number.

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Homework Statement



let z' = (a,b), find z in C such that z^2 = z'

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



let z = (x,y) then z^2 = (x^2-y^2, 2xy)
since z^2 = z', we have,

(x^2-y^2, 2xy) = (a,b)

comparing real and imaginary components we have;

x^2-y^2 = a,
2xy = b.

Now, this is where i am stuck.
i know i have to find z in terms of a and b.
here is an attempt at what to do next;

subtracting the second equation from the first,

x^2 - 2xy - y^2 = a - b

completing the square,

(x - y)^2 - 2y^2 = a - b.

...

Not asking for the answer or anything, just a push in the right direction.
 
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You have z' as a+bi and you know then that z is a-bi so shouldn't you just solve for a in terms of b or vice versa?
 
HMPARTICLE said:

Homework Statement



let z' = (a,b), find z in C such that z^2 = z'

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



let z = (x,y) then z^2 = (x^2-y^2, 2xy)
since z^2 = z', we have,

(x^2-y^2, 2xy) = (a,b)

comparing real and imaginary components we have;

x^2-y^2 = a,
2xy = b.

Now, this is where i am stuck.
i know i have to find z in terms of a and b.
here is an attempt at what to do next;

subtracting the second equation from the first,

x^2 - 2xy - y^2 = a - b

completing the square,

(x - y)^2 - 2y^2 = a - b.

...

Not asking for the answer or anything, just a push in the right direction.

Write ##z' = a + ib## in polar form. Then, finding the roots of ##z^2 = z'## is straightforward.
 
It might be worth calculating |z| and |z2|. Also investigating what (kz)2 looks like and thinking about the implications for z.
 
Thanks guys! My textbook hadn't yet defined polar form so I was reluctant to use it. I solved in the way I was progressing via substitution.
 
I don't think it helps to convert to polar form. What you already have looks great to me except that you have written z as x+ yi and z' as a+ bi. So exactly what does z' mean here? You are treating it as just "some other" complex number but I would have interpreted it as the complex conjugate of z. If that is correct then the problem is much easier than what you are doing.
 
no, some other complex number (not complex conjugate), i should have denoted it as ## z_0 ## or something similar!
 

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