Complex Numbers finding values

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The discussion revolves around finding a value of k in the context of complex numbers, specifically focusing on the argument of a product of complex numbers divided by an imaginary unit. The original poster presents an equation involving the arguments of two complex numbers and seeks to resolve the presence of the imaginary unit.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the arguments of complex numbers and how to manipulate them when divided by an imaginary unit. There is uncertainty about how to handle the imaginary number i and its implications on the argument.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the problem, with some suggesting methods to expand the argument function. There is recognition of the need to clarify the role of the imaginary unit and its argument, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of missing information regarding the value of k in the original problem statement. Participants also reference external resources for understanding the argument of complex numbers, indicating a reliance on established mathematical principles.

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Homework Statement



Given that arg((z1z2)/2i) = \pi, find a value of k.

Homework Equations



arg z2=2\pi=0

arg z1=\pi/6


The Attempt at a Solution



((\pi/6)^k x (2\pi))/ (2i) = \pi

I'm not sure what to do with the imaginary number i..
 
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lunds002 said:
Given that arg((z1z2)/2i) = \pi, find a value of k.

You're missing a k in the problem. Where is it missing?
 
Oops, should be arg ( z1 x z2^k) / (2i)
 
lunds002 said:
Oops, should be arg ( z1 x z2^k) / (2i)

You should be able to get it by expanding the arg function.

E.g. arg(z1z1)=arg(z1)+arg(z2).

(the rules are similar to log rules)
 
Okay so then I get

arg(z1^k) + arg(z2) = pi
2i

(pi/6)^k + 2pi = pi
2i

(pi/6)^k + 2pi = 2i(pi)

Not sure what to do with the imaginary i
 
lunds002 said:
Okay so then I get

arg(z1^k) + arg(z2) = pi
2i

(pi/6)^k + 2pi = pi
2i

(pi/6)^k + 2pi = 2i(pi)

Not sure what to do with the imaginary i

Check the wikipedia page on argument for how to deal with arg(z1/z2). It's similar to how you expand loga(x/y).

You should know what arg(i) is equal to.
 
Okay so I know z1/z2 = r1/r2 cis (theta-\psi)

I don't really understand how that applies here though

And you're right, I do know that arg(i) = -1
 
lunds002 said:
Okay so I know z1/z2 = r1/r2 cis (theta-\psi)

I don't really understand how that applies here though

And you're right, I do know that arg(i) = -1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_(complex_analysis)#Identities

arg(i) is the angle formed by the z=i and the positive real axis. z=i is the line perpendicular to the positive real axis, so arg(i) is not -1 but ?
 

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