Complex Variables Limit Problem(s)

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The discussion revolves around solving two complex variable limit problems. The first limit, as z approaches 3i, can be solved by factoring, resulting in a value of 6i. The second limit, as z approaches i, presents more difficulty, as it cannot be easily factored, leading to confusion about its behavior. Participants clarify that the second limit is not indeterminate and suggest that it approaches infinity, specifically noting that there is only one point at infinity in complex analysis. The concept of the Riemann sphere is introduced to visualize this behavior in the complex plane.
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Homework Statement


a) \lim_{z\to 3i}\frac{z^2 + 9}{z - 3i}
b) \lim_{z\to i}\frac{z^2 + i}{z^4 - 1}


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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm assuming both of these are very, very similar, but I'm not quite sure how to solve them. I would like a method other than using ε and \delta.

If you simply plug in the limit, it's obviously indeterminate. Is there an easy method to solve these limits or is the only option to use ε and \delta? I'm not sure how to start, any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.
 
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Try factoring the numerator and/or denominators. It's quite simple from there.
 
Wow, can't believe I didn't realize that. It helped me solve a), which I ended up getting to be 6i, but b) cannot be factored (I don't think?).

If it were z^4 + 1 in the denominator then I could, but I'm pretty sure I cannot factor anything in that problem?
 
wtmore said:
Wow, can't believe I didn't realize that. It helped me solve a), which I ended up getting to be 6i, but b) cannot be factored (I don't think?).

If it were z^4 + 1 in the denominator then I could, but I'm pretty sure I cannot factor anything in that problem?

The denominator is a difference of squares. Then one of the factors has the same type of factorization as (a), namely the trick that a *sum* of squares can be factored with the use of an imaginary number.
 
SteveL27 said:
The denominator is a difference of squares. Then one of the factors has the same type of factorization as (a), namely the trick that a *sum* of squares can be factored with the use of an imaginary number.

So I have:
\frac{z^2+i}{z^4-1}=\frac{z^2+i}{(z^2-1)(z^2+1)}=\frac{z^2+i}{(z-1)(z+1)(z-i)(z+i)}
Am I missing something in the numerator?

EDIT: Would multiplying by the numerators conjugate be beneficial?
 
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wtmore said:
So I have:
\frac{z^2+i}{z^4-1}=\frac{z^2+i}{(z^2-1)(z^2+1)}=\frac{z^2+i}{(z-1)(z+1)(z-i)(z+i)}
Am I missing something in the numerator?

EDIT: Would multiplying by the numerators conjugate be beneficial?

Hmmm ... that didn't help. I'm stuck too now.
 
SteveL27 said:
Hmmm ... that didn't help. I'm stuck too now.

The second one isn't indeterminant.
 
Dick said:
The second one isn't indeterminant.

Would the answer be \pm∞?
 
wtmore said:
Would the answer be \pm∞?

Just ∞. There's only one point at infinity in the extended complex numbers. If you think of the plane, you go to infinity when you go toward the edge of the plane in any direction. There's only one complex infinity, way out there beyond the edge of the plane.

A really nice visualization is to add a single point at infinity, and identify it with the "circumference" of the plane ... take the entire plane and fold it into a sphere, with the point at infinity at the north pole. It's called the Riemann sphere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann_sphere
 
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wtmore said:
Would the answer be \pm∞?

Not in the complex numbers. It's a pole. Saying "does not exist" is probably safe.
 

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