Complex variables: Logarithm function.

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The discussion revolves around a problem in complex variables concerning the logarithm function and its behavior when a specific ray is deleted from the domain. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the implications of removing the ray {x:x≤0} from the complex plane and seeks clarity on the mapping properties of the logarithm function in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the meaning of "deleting the ray" and its impact on the continuity of the logarithm function. There are inquiries about the specific ray being referred to and its implications for defining a branch of the logarithm. The original poster questions how to express the mapping of G(z) onto a horizontal strip mathematically.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the deleted ray, indicating it refers specifically to the negative real axis. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of this deletion on the function's continuity and the nature of the mapping. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes difficulties in visualizing the domain D and the branch of log z, which may be affecting their understanding of the problem. There is also mention of potential confusion between different geometric interpretations of rays in the complex plane.

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I'm taking a complex variables course, and I'm really stuck at it, I've never felt this way in any math course before :S, I'm starting to get angry. Anyway here is the problem, I hope someone can give me a hand. I believe this is a basic and simple problem in the subject...

Homework Statement


Let D be the domain obtained by deleting the ray {x:x\leq0} from the plane, and let G(z) be a branch of log z on D. Show that G maps D onto a horizontal strip of width of 2pi
{x+iy: -\infty<x<\infty, co<y<co+2pi},
and that the mapping is one-to-one on D.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Ok so first off I'm trying to actually understand the problem. Where it says deleting the ray {x:x\leq0} I don't know exactly what it means. I mean, in my mind there is an infinite number of rays that satisfy those conditions (all the rays going from the imaginary axis and going left all the way to infinity, parallel to the x axis). I think I'm way off here, but believe me, I've read the textbook and it just isn't clear to me this all thing about rays and branches. Plus, I can't picture the branch of log z if I can't picture D in the first place! Could somebody help me with understanding this please?

Thanks a lot.

NOTE: The infinities are not supposed to be exponentials, I don't know why they appeared that way.
 
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"Deleting the ray" just means don't define the log on it and don't expect the definition to be continuous when you cross that ray. The point to 'defining a branch' is to make the definition of the function continuous in the part of the domain that wasn't removed. Do you see why there would be a problem defining a single valued log if the domain contained a circle around zero?
 
Oooh, I think I know where you're getting. So if we have a complete circle around zero then the domain would be continuous and would go round and round... so, you'd get different values for G(z) as we added 2pi to z. Great great, I think I'm getting somewhere. I still have this question though: Particularly speaking about this problem now, what ray exactly is deleted with the ray {x:x\leq0} ? Is it the negative x axis? I mean by saying x is less than or equal to 0, it does not necessarily mean the negative x axis, it could be any ray going parallel to the x-axis (beginning at 0 and going to negative infinity). So which of all this infinite amount of rays does the problem mean? ... Or what am I missing here?

Also, how could I actually start showing that G maps D onto a horizontal strip of width 2pi. I mean I think I can picture it and understand why it is so, but I can't think of a way of doing it using mathematical language.
 
Yes, in this problem they are deleting the negative real axis. You could 'delete' in any number of different ways, as long as you can't circle around 0 without passing through the deleted part. Any ray starting at 0 will work. You seem to be confusing 0 (the point 0+0i) and the y-axis (x=0) when you are talking about 'rays parallel to the x-axis'. There aren't an infinite number that pass through 0. Think about writing the complex numbers in polar form, r*exp(i*theta) and you can choose -pi<theta<pi. The log of that is log(|r|)+i*theta+2*n*pi*i.
 

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