How Do You Determine If Compounds Contain Ions and Their Charges?

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This discussion focuses on identifying ionic compounds and determining formal charges on ions, specifically analyzing NaCl, N2, MgO, AlCl3, and CO2. Participants confirm that NaCl is ionic, while N2 does not contain ions. The octet rule is emphasized as a key concept for understanding how elements like sodium (Na) and chlorine (Cl) achieve stable electron configurations. The conversation highlights the importance of recognizing the distinction between compounds and molecules in the context of ionic character.

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Hey,

So I've got a homework question which is gradually transforming by brain into mashed potato!

Here it is..

Identify which of the following compounds contains ions and state the formal charges on the ions: NaCl, N2, MgO, AlCl3, and CO2.

Now, I'm not asking for someone to come in and give me the answer to all of them, I'm just after how I can find the answers, I just don't understand after a long time Googling..

I've had a crack and found that NaCl is ionic, but I just don't understand how to figure out the formal charge..

I'm at a loss, any help will be great - thank you!
 
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Hint: octet rule-

By the way, please do not remove the homework template, but use it to set up your question.
 
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DrClaude said:
Hint: octet rule-

By the way, please do not remove the homework template, but use it to set up your question.

I've read about the octet rule but just can't join the two together, FML.

Okay I won't in future, I'm very new here.
 
Take NaCl as an example. What do you need to do to Na and Cl so that both follow the octet rule?
 
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Na needs to gain an electron (I think) and Cl needs to lose an electron to reach the nearest full shell
 
So would I be right in thinking...

If N2 is 2 nitrogen atoms, and both have a charge of 3- does that give it a formal charge of 6-?

One thing that's confusing me.. The question says "the following compounds" yet N2 is not a compound... hmm
 
givemeknowledge said:
Na needs to gain an electron (I think) and Cl needs to lose an electron to reach the nearest full shell
What is the electron configuration of Na and Cl?

givemeknowledge said:
If N2 is 2 nitrogen atoms, and both have a charge of 3- does that give it a formal charge of 6-?
Don't you have to determine if ir contains ions first?

givemeknowledge said:
One thing that's confusing me.. The question says "the following compounds" yet N2 is not a compound... hmm
What do you call a compound?
 
DrClaude said:
What is the electron configuration of Na and Cl?

Na - 1s^2 2s^2 2p^6 3s^1

Cl - 1s^2 2s^2 2p^6 3s^2 3p^5


Don't you have to determine if ir contains ions first?

Yeah I do!

What do you call a compound?

Something made up of more than one element's atoms?
 
So, for Na and Cl, what is the simplest way to fulfill the octet rule?

Does N2 contain ions? Indeed, it is not strictly speaking a compound, but you can treat it as such for this question (actually, this gives you a hint as to whether it contains ions or not).
 
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While N2 is technically not a compound, it is still a molecule - so it can either be ionic, or not.
 

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