How Do You Calculate Moles of Compound Ions?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the number of moles of compound ions, specifically the sulfate ion (SO4^2-), when given the moles of a whole compound, such as potassium sulfate (K2SO4). The focus is on understanding the relationship between the whole compound and its constituent ions.

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  • One participant questions how to find the moles of a compound ion from the moles of the entire compound, suggesting that they might treat the compound ion as having a subscript of 1.
  • Another participant suggests that dimensional analysis can clarify the calculation, indicating that there is a direct relationship between the moles of K2SO4 and the moles of SO4.
  • A later reply confirms the understanding that SO4^2- should be treated as one ion in the compound, leading to a multiplication of the moles of K2SO4 by 1.

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Participants generally agree on the method to calculate the moles of the sulfate ion from the moles of K2SO4, though there is some initial uncertainty regarding the wording of the question and the correctness of a reference answer.

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The discussion reflects some confusion regarding the phrasing of the original question and the reliability of external resources for verification.

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[SOLVED] Amount in mol of compound ions

This is just a quick question as it has slipped my mind..

Does anyone know how you would find the mol of a compound ion (ie - SO42- (sulfate ion)), if you are given the mol of the whole compound (in my case it is K2SO4)

I know to find single ions and atoms (ie of potassium and Oxygen) you just multiply their number by the amount of mol, however i am less sure of the compound ions...

Do you treat the compound ion, in this case...as having a subscript of 1? therefore you would multiply the amount in mol by 1?

thank you..
 
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I think you have solved your own problem.
 
Yeah i may have...haha

The problem is...I'm making sure because the answer at the back of my book I know is wrong...So i have nothing to check against
 
what is the actual question?
 
Some dimensional analysis makes it intuitive

#mol (K_2SO_4) * \frac{1 mol SO_4}{1 mol K_2SO_4}

That fraction is equal to 1 since there is exactly 1 mol of SO4 in every mol of K2SO4

The mol K2SO4 cancel out and you have what you're looking for
 
The given question was not worded well

But i understand now that in a compound such as K2SO4, you would treat SO4^2- as one ion in this compound...therefore you would multiply 1 by the number of mol there is of K2SO4..

Problem solved...thanks guys
 

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