Compressed Air Turbine: A Sustainable Solution for Power Generation

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of using compressed air turbines for power generation. Participants highlight various turbine types, including Tesla turbines and rotary vane pumps, which can convert compressed air into mechanical energy. The conversation also emphasizes the importance of understanding working pressures and flow rates when selecting a turbine. Additionally, it critiques the efficiency of generating electricity from compressed air compared to direct methods like diesel generators or wind turbines.

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  • Understanding of compressed air systems and their applications
  • Familiarity with turbine types, specifically Tesla turbines and rotary vane pumps
  • Knowledge of thermodynamic processes, including isothermal and adiabatic compression
  • Basic principles of energy conversion and efficiency in power generation
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  • Research the efficiency of Tesla turbines in compressed air applications
  • Explore the principles of isothermal and adiabatic processes in thermodynamics
  • Investigate the design and operation of rotary vane pumps for energy generation
  • Learn about the economic comparisons between compressed air systems and traditional power generation methods
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Engineers, researchers, and students interested in sustainable energy solutions, particularly those exploring alternative power generation methods using compressed air technology.

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I don't know whether this is appropriate for this part or not, but I am now looking for turbine/machinery that can be run by compressed air to produce power/electricity. Is there any manufacturer of such a machine is available?
 
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Are you referring to something like a gas turbine ?
 
No. A turbine that will run on compressed air.
 
Pretty much any turbine will work. Being air (low temp, non corrosive/reactive) opens up a lot of options.
A https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002YVBK2/?tag=pfamazon01-20 converts compressed air into shaft power, that could be coupled with a very small generator.

For a bit more power there are larger options, some I've read about in small ORC systems:

http://waset.org/publications/6420/efficiency-of-compact-organic-rankine-cycle-system-with-rotary-vane-type-expander-for-low-temperature-waste-heat-recovery (An engineering student at MIT adapted a used car aircon pump, can't find the paper right now).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_vane_pump

Tesla turbine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_turbine

Screw compressor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary-screw_compressor

Scroll compressor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scroll_compressor
http://organicrankine.com/?page=orc_automobile

Even a supercharger (lobe pump):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots-type_supercharger

Nearly all pump & compressor types can generate shaft power when operated in 'reverse' (ie a fluid is forced through them).
There are plenty of manufacturers around but you'll need to know your working pressures, flow rates etc first. Or you could just scavenge some compressors from a junk yard and wing it.

The real question is why?
How is it that you have compressed air but need electricity?
You are much better off, in terms of cost and power generated, to generate electricity from whatever source created the compressed air in the first place, eg if your air compressor is deisel, then buy a diesel generator, you'll get maybe ten times as much electrical power per litre of diesel burnt, much cheaper in the long term, and probably cheaper capital cost too.
 
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Its better to use a wind mill to generate power.
Because you have to spend energy on compressing air anyway.
 
sachinhari93 said:
Its better to use a wind mill to generate power.
Because you have to spend energy on compressing air anyway.
Actually, I am looking for this for a special purpose. I want to know if air is first compressed isothermally and then suddenly released adiabatically, then how much of the energy consumed during compression can be returned. Let's start with an ideal case and then go back to reality.
I also want to know what would be the temperature of air after completion of such a process.
 
pranj5 said:
Actually, I am looking for this for a special purpose. I want to know if air is first compressed isothermally and then suddenly released adiabatically, then how much of the energy consumed during compression can be returned. Let's start with an ideal case and then go back to reality.
I also want to know what would be the temperature of air after completion of such a process.
This is a totally different question from what you asked in the OP. Please start a new thread and include the following in the opening post:
1. A complete explanation of what you are trying to accomplish including a list of all processes and their starting and ending pressures and temperatures. We don't want to have to guess what you are trying to do.
2. The results of your research into the principles and equations that govern the processes. We don't want to have to start from scratch.

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