Compton effect and visible light

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The discussion revolves around the Compton effect and its observation using visible light, focusing on the relationship between wavelength, energy, and electron excitation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore why the Compton effect is difficult to observe with visible light, questioning the relationship between wavelength and energy. There is a discussion on whether visible light has sufficient energy to excite electrons.

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Some participants have provided insights into the energy levels associated with visible light compared to the Compton effect, noting that visible light's energy is significantly lower than that required for noticeable scattering. There is an ongoing exploration of assumptions regarding wavelength and energy.

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Participants are considering the implications of energy conservation and momentum transfer in the context of visible light and electron interactions, with a focus on the limitations of visible light's energy in relation to electron excitation.

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why is it extremely dificult to observe the compton effect using visible light?

is it because visible light does not have a short enough wavelength to excite the electrons?
 
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Compton scattering becomes noticable when the energy of the light is comparable to the rest energy of the electron (~511 keV, hard X-rays). Visible light is much less energetic than this (~few eV), so the scattering process can conserve energy and momentum without a significant change in the wavelength of the photon.
 
does wavelength tell you the energy?
 
UrbanXrisis said:
does wavelength tell you the energy?

Yes. For a photon,

[tex]E=h\nu=\frac{hc}{\lambda}[/tex]
 
so my assumption that visible light does not have a short enough wavelength to excite the electrons is correct? since thei wavelength is long, making energy low, hence, not enough eV to excite the electron?
 
UrbanXrisis said:
so my assumption that visible light does not have a short enough wavelength to excite the electrons is correct? since thei wavelength is long, making energy low, hence, not enough eV to excite the electron?

The electron can receive both energy and momentum from a visible photon, but both would be just a tiny fraction of its rest energy. But yes, that's basically right.
 

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