Compton Scattering Using Mandel-Stam Variables

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The discussion focuses on deriving Compton Scattering equations using Mandel-Stam variables, specifically addressing the conservation of energy and momentum in different reference frames. The key equations involve the Mandelstam variable \(s\), represented as \((p_\mu + p_{ei_\mu})^2 = (p'_\mu + p_{e_\mu})^2\). The participant attempts to analyze the equations in both the Center of Mass (CMS) frame and the laboratory frame, ultimately realizing the necessity of consistency in the reference frame for energy calculations. The error identified is the incorrect application of energy values across different systems.

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Homework Statement



Not homework, just for fun. I want to derive Compton Scattering equations using Mandel-Stam variables as opposed to the way that I have done it in class using the usual energy and momentum conservation

Homework Equations



[tex](p_\mu+p_{ei}_\mu)^2=(p'_\mu+p_e_\mu)^{2}=s[/tex]
p is the momentum of incoming photon and pei is of initially stationary electron. p' is final photon and p_e_\mu is final electron.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm going to try to do the right side in the CMS frame and the left side in the lab frame for convencience.

[tex]Em_e=2EE_e_[/tex]
...skip a few easy steps using
[tex]E=\sqrt{p^{2}+m^{2}}[/tex]
[tex]E^{2}-E'^{2}=\frac{p_e_^2}{me^{2}}[/tex]

Which isn't right. What's wrong here?
 
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You have to do both in the lab system because you need the photon energies in the lab system. Your first equation can't be right. You can't use the same E in each system.
Stanley's name is Mandelstam. He is only one person.
 

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